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"A black Princeton professor is protesting her arrest during a traffic stop last week, saying she was mistreated because of her race by two white police officers who searched her and handcuffed her to a table.
The police chief in Princeton, N.J., however, said the officers had followed department policy in arresting the professor, Imani Perry."

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/10/nyregion/black-princeton-professor-protests-her-parking-ticket-arrest.html?_r=0&referer=https://www.google.com/

Is she right?

I don't know. I wasn't there. I think the police (at least in America) are systemically incompetent, and I think they have been pretty conclusively shown to act in an unreasonably harsh way towards minorities. But that's true regardless of what happened in this case.

and like I said, I wasn't there.

I don't care if she's right or wrong, the police needed to be more sensitive the the repercussions of their actions.

The only thing that seemed suspect in the article was being searched by the male officer if a female one was there. Everything else-- the bench warrant, arrest, put in a squad car, no call-- is standard procedure if you don't pay a ticket or miss a court date.

Am I on Facebook?

The fact that it is policy to arrest someone over unpaid parking tickets is ridiculous. I'd say this is less about race and more about the overactive justice system that arrests for minor things that should not be arrestable at all.

She was driving over 20 mph over the speed limit which prompted being pulled over. And it wasn't over parking tickets so much over the warrant. She could have had 1000 parking tickets but as long as there is no warrant, she would have been fine.

Well, to be fair, the warrant was for not paying the parking ticket for many years. But I don't know how people expect fines for minor infractions to be enforceable if there aren't eventually serious consequences for ignoring them.

Yeah, they have to actually have some kind of consequence or no one would pay their fines. I think in OK they can take your tax refund for unpaid fines!

So the executive summary is:

- She breaks the law twice.
- She gets an easy out for this (pay your fines).
- She fails to take the easy out and ignores the justice system.
- She breaks the law again and gets stopped.
- She gets arrested because when you don't do what the court tells you that tends to happen.
- She gets a pat down search by a man (to be honest this is the one questionable part)
- Police then follow entirely normal procedure.
- She lies in social media, and blames literally everyone but herself and her entitlement.

I miss anything?

Sort of. The point that standard procedure itself can be scrutinized some. Not blaming the officers if that is their standard procedure, but having to arrest, cuff, and haul someone nonviolent in for $130 sounds a little silly.

SA

It also makes the officers look bad when they are literally doing their job and following what they're supposed to follow. It's not the officers themselves I'd be concerned about - it's that really easily abused procedure, whether or not it was abused in this instance.

Courts are real big on you doing what you tell them. Pretty much anywhere in the world you'll get arrested and brought before them for explicitly violating what they tell you to do.

And it's understandable, because they're one of the founding structures of our society, and allowing even small things to undermine them is a net negative.

I find it understandable but not optimal. Much easier to start garnishing wages or some such once a time limit on paying the fines has been hit - ensuring that they'll pay regardless and can't escape the court. With no need to arrest someone who might start a social media protest making everybody look bad over $130 in parking tickets.

I agree it seems a little silly over $130, but on the other hand, I think it's only $130 - pay your damn tickets, Professor, and the problem is solved. And I didn't even need a degree to figure that one out.

The only sketch thing is a male patting down a female. Usually they bring along a female cop just in case.

Other than that, people really need to stop whining when they break the law and get caught. If you don't want to get caught, don't break the law in the first place. You're not special enough to be above the rules.

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