fandomsecrets | [ SECRET POST #423 ]

⌈ Secret Post #423 ⌋

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And you know what else? There were a lot of people who began as nazi's until they knew what was going on. Like The White Rose, a group against Hitler. The people that started it began as nazi's and loved Hitler until they realized what was happening and they went against Hitler.

Don't worry. Whether Heiderich was a nazi or not, I'm sure he wouldn't have stayed one as soon as he knew what was going on.

The people that started it began as nazi's and loved Hitler until they realized what was happening and they went against Hitler.

No, they weren't. The members of the White Rose were never Nazis, they were at best ambivalent. In fact, Christoph Probst was educated at an institution which opposed national socialism in the curriculums, Willi Graf belonged to the Graue Orden, an illegal Catholic youth organization (he was arrested for that and kept captive for several weeks in '38). And Professor Huber was promised a teaching position in Berlin - which he eventually didn't get because he refused to compose marching songs for a Nazi student organization.

Check your facts before you post.

I was talking about the brother and sister who helped begin it. And using nazi as a vague term. But whatever. I don't care too much about getting things 100% right. I did a project on it four years ago. I can't remember everything. :3

Feel better about yourself?

I don't care too much about getting things 100% right

That's clear from pretty much every comment you make here :) lol dumbass

I was so owned right there.

Eh, what the hell. You can't be bothered to look stuff up, but it suits the point you wanna make, so you go and make unfounded statements. And call people nazis just like that.

Wow. You've clearly understood nothing about the whole topic.

Clearly not. But clearly, people have to make themselves feel better and go on and on about something that should just die.

Seriously. Fandom Secrets is so much drama. xDDD

Well, maybe Nazi Germany is just one big joke for you, but this isn't really something you should flaunt. Are you honestly surprised that there are people who take this issue seriously?
You're pretty ignorant.

Um, I never said I found Nazi Germany funny. Sorry if I made it seem that way?

I'm just letting this thing die.

Geez, yeah, you did not say it.
But you clearly demonstrated that you don't care about the whole complex, difficult, sensitive topic one bit, and would rather make up stuff, including calling people nazis, just so you can feel good about a character from some shitty anime.

And then you complain that not everyone shares your ignorance and disinterest. Good that you're backpedaling now, but you've already proved yourself arrogant enough.
Besides, your original comment is really worthless now. Hope you learned to just shut up when you don't know anything about the issue at hand.

NEITHER were the Scholl siblings - they were raised in a violently anti-Nazism household. They belonged to the Hitlerjugend and BdM, but virtually everyone at the time did and not belonging to it would've just made them more suspicious than they were anyway (what with Hans' continuing leadership in the Buendische Jugend and his siblings' membership - which all the Scholl siblings were arrested for in '37, btw). There's a DIFFERENCE between belonging to one of the NS groups and being a Nazi - the alternative to not belonging to them was not particularly good for their well-being.

It's impossible to say when they really started opposing Nazism outright, but it's very obvious neither of the siblings - neither Hans nor Sophie nor Inge nor Elisabeth nor Werner, although it's of course most obvious with Hans and Sophie - was "into it" or a full-blown Nazi as you're trying to portray them. They "loved Hitler"? Not in their wildest dreams. What you're doing is slander, and not excusable as "not caring about getting things 100% right" - it just proves you a massive cretin.

Suggestion: What about you have a nice cup of STFU and read a book once in a while before you stuff your foot in your mouth?

Well as others have said you were incorrect about the White Rose Group. However I don't think people should be giving you such a hard time for making a mistake.

To go with what you said a better example would have been Oskar Schindler. :)

Edited 2008-03-04 01:26 (UTC)

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