case: ([ Ryohei; CAPSLOCK. ])
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-03-03 05:36 am

[ SECRET POST #423 ]


⌈ Secret Post #423 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 13 pages, 306 secrets from Secret Submission Post #061.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 ] broken links, [ 1 2 3 ] not!secrets, 0 not!fandom, [ 1 2 3 ] too big, [ 1 ] repeat, [ 1 ] can we go ONE week without this?
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

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[identity profile] bemysty.livejournal.com 2008-03-04 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
*sigh* To make one thing clear: The movie is set in 1923. In 1923, the NSDAP was not much more than a joke to most people - before the Beer Hall Putsch, they hadn't even taken part in a legitimate Reichstagswahl and their only "local" success was in Bavaria. The vast majority of Germans had never heard of the party or that "weird painter Hitler". Heck, the party preceding it, the DAP, was so miniscule their membership register was started at the number 501 to make them seem more important than they were!

(incidentally, when Hitler joined, he had the number 555 - so he was the 54th member, nearly a year after the DAP was founded - THAT's how tiny and unimportant they were)

And the Thule Society... was far from mainstream. Its founder only established it to further his own occult theories offside the Germanenorden. The anti-Seminism, anti-Communism, racist ideals only entered the picture later, and were never intended by the founder. They poured money into various projects they considered interesting (including the DAP) or beneficial to their 'studies' (i.e., and I quote Wikipedia because my sources aren't in English, [a] primary focus of Thule-Gesellschaft was a claim concerning the origins of the Aryan race. "Thule", or Θούλη, was a land located by Greco-Roman geographers in the furthest north.) and later, ironically, dissolved specifically because Hitler severed the ties to it - because he had no interest in it.

Some people who were later important in the regime did have ties to it and occasionally took part in meetings, but most of them were never full members - more guests than anything else.

tl;dr - Thule Society != 100% Nazis. Hence, Heidrich = not a Nazi. And really, what does it matter? He's a fictional character. And that movie... they GENDERSWITCHED A PERSON WHO REALLY EXISTED (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Eckart)... and had "her" tentacle raped. Historical accuracy? What historical accuracy?
Edited 2008-03-04 01:28 (UTC)

39, not OP

(Anonymous) 2008-03-04 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
The genderswitch thing made me laugh so hard.

Re: 39, not OP

[identity profile] cryogenia.livejournal.com 2008-03-04 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
The entire movie was bizarre...I half expected to see girl!Hitler or something by the end XD

Re: 39 (also not OP)

(Anonymous) 2008-03-04 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
I really thought Eckhart was supposed to be an alter-Riza to be quite honest. Which... I found hilarious, even if it's not true.

Not OP either.

[identity profile] fallofkarma.livejournal.com 2008-03-04 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you, that was very enlightning.