[ SECRET POST #3334 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3334 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I know, right? Real people never change their minds about personal life choices. All vegetarians are always vegetarians, child-free people never choose to have a kid, and people never, ever, get divorced.

[type_wild]

More like how characters taking some kind of non-conforming stance in life sooner or later see the error in their ways and do like every NORMAL person does.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not overly familiar with BBT but it sounds like people are imposing their own agendas on Bernadette (just like they did with, say, Sheldon's sexuality). If Bernadette said she was child-free and had zero desire to have kids simply because she doesn't want/like kids, fine. But if she cited reasons like career, worried about her husband taking responsibility, afraid of the commitment... well, those are things that thousands and thousands of women think about when considering kids. It doesn't mean they are child-free, and it doesn't mean they will never come to a point where they feel comfortable or in a position of being ready to have kids.

[type_wild]

Yeah, I only ever see BBT when it's what's on when I'm at the gym, so I can't comment on this particular case. But as a person who's childfree because I'm completely disinterested in romantic relationships, the above comment sounded gratingly like the "oh, you'll change your mind yet" that the entire world has been telling me the last fifteen years.

[(Anonymous)]

How on earth is acknowledging that people sometimes chage their mind anything like saying "You, type-wild, will change your mind someday, because everyone does!"

[(Anonymous)]

Because it's ALWAYS about the childfree person changing their minds. That's not acknowledging sometimes, it's all the time.

[(Anonymous)]

in the above comment, I was referring to my other comment and how typewild interpreted it as being some sort of slight against them, not the practices of media.

[type_wild]

Because it feels like ANY character making a statement about how they'll never be in a relationship/ew kids are noisy and clingy no way are they touching that, it's not a statement about how this is they way they're going to live their life - it's a statement about how the writers are going to prove them wrong and make them change their mind.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

THIS.

[(Anonymous)]

But she never made any such statement either. Not wanting kids when they say that=/=not wanting kids EVER. She was never expressly childfree either.

[type_wild]

I'm not talking about Bernadette specifically here (don't really watch BBT etc.), but about the trend this seems to be a part of. I. e. characters who are established with Some Kind Of Socially Deviating Life Choice changing their minds about it and conforming to the commonly accepted standards for a happy life.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean OK, but that's not how Bernadette was. And that's even disregarding the childish "ew kids!" reaction.

[(Anonymous)]

Because that "oh, you'll change your mind" mindset is overwhelmingly (and annoyingly) prevalent.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not that I don't think there are obnoxious people out there who would say "BUT MAYBE YOU'LL CHANGE YOUR MIND ABOUT KIDS" to childfree folks, but I have to say, I think some people are taking this a little too personally. If you haven't seen BBT, you can't really speak to whether Bernadette might take a different stance on children - and I never got the impression that she was hardcore childfree. She's allowed to change her mind, you know.

tl;dr - I totally agree with "I'm not overly familiar with BBT but it sounds like people are imposing their own agendas on Bernadette (just like they did with, say, Sheldon's sexuality)."

[(Anonymous)]

Ok, you name three characters who were stated to want children and then changed their mind and decided to be childfree BY CHOICE, not because they couldn't have kids. And I'll name three childfree characters who changed their minds to be 'normal' and we'll see who runs out first.

April Ludgate
Bernadette
Temperance "Bones" Brennan

Ok, your turn!

[(Anonymous)]

But Bernadette isn't child-free.

[(Anonymous)]

Wha a nice strawbaby you've made.

[grausam]

lol, this. there might be an in-universe justification for it, but the overall trend is clear.

[(Anonymous)]

But..there's hardly any representation of permently childfree women in mainstream media. That's the main reason why OP doesn't like it.
So...you defending it is stupid and misses the point.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like I need to preface my comment with "proof:" All throughout my teens and 20s I was a big old nope on the kids front. I hated kids. I hated other kids when I was a kid, I hated baby sitting, I hated being around them. People (family, friends--peers) were very "but what if your husband wants kids" and I was very "why would I marry someone who wanted kids?" As I got older I was like "crap they are expensive" (not even in the whole "it costs a million dollars to raise a kid," because I know that a million over 18 years also includes stuff like housing, plus it's not an up-front cost, which I'm paying anyway; but the like "wait, my insurance would go up by how much if I added a dependent?") Had fun watching my friends who were all "babies!" in high school have the same realizations and declare themselves childfree when they realized what it meant to actually have a kid.

And then I turned 30 and something was released in my brain I was was all "babies! give them to me! where can I buy sperm and a turkey baster?" They cry and I want to hug them, I coo and fawn over new babies that people bring to work. Babies. All about babies.

So yes: People can change their minds. That said -- I don't think I've ever seen babies done well on a TV show, and I loathe this story line for that reason. On top of the fact that BBT is already a poorly written show, it's going to be gross poop jokes, Bernadette is going to get even more shrill.

They can't win: with just having Howard and Bernadette carry around a baby carrier, after a couple of weeks the baby will want out of it (and it would be a hassle to film scenes around the filming regulations while one of them bounces kid on their knee) and then have them continue to hang out with friends.

On the other hand, it's ridiculous to think that "the nanny" will be caring for the baby while they continue to hang out with their friends (by the time you get off work in the evening, most people do kinda want to see their kid before it goes to bed).

Every one of my friends and coworkers with kids says the same thing - that while they love their kid and spouse, they have never argued as much as they did for that first year of their baby's life -- I don't want to watch that on TV; if I wanted to I could get the free show by heading over to a friend's house.

Personally, I would have loved little bits with a kid here or there for a little while (to have Bernadette warm up to a kid), and have Howard and Bernadette announce their pregnancy or have the baby as part of the series finale. But the producers have said that at this point, they have no plans to end the series after season 10 (next season), and I'm sure they plan to milk it as long as the ratings hold.

[dancingmouse]

Oh no! Does that mean in a few months, I'm going to get baby brain?

*is a little worried*

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

Not necessarily. I just hit 55, and it still hasn't happened. (Although I do coo over baby animals.)

[(Anonymous)]

I had a brief bout of baby-brain for about 6 months around 29. It passed and I'm very very glad I didn't indulge it. It's a bit like getting a DragonBall Z tattoo because you've been hardcore into anime for a couple months now and OMG you didn't love it before but there's no way you'd change your mind about this being the one true love of your life.

I also know multiple people who make sure and get sterilized and they haven't regretted it. Especially just for the look on people's faces when they try to pull the "Oh, you're not planning to have kids? Well sometimes happy little accidents just happen!" line and get shut down.