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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-20 04:20 pm

[ F!S Anon Meme (the ??th!) ]

F!S Anon Meme (the ??th!)


Secrets, rants, opinions, anything you want to say about your fandom or a fandom or fandom in general, do it here! Anonymously, of course. Get it all off your chest.

Some ground rules:
1. Going anon is encouraged but not absolutely required (for those who struggle with captchas and stuff).
2. No autoplaying/autolooping embeds, or embeds that cover/stretch the screen.
3. No dropping personal info or IRL contact info, etc.

That's about it, though!

I'll be linking some general/general-fandom threads I see so people don't repost new threads with the same stuff. If you want me to link your thread up here, drop a link in the first comment!

List of threads:

Favorite FSers
Your diehard fandoms
NSFW confession thread
Topics you wish FS would stop wanking about
What do you want FS to talk about more?
(Pan)fandom discussion post
General opinions
Fapping material?
Random rants

Rivers of London series: Foxglove Summer

(Anonymous) 2016-02-20 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel this book was very neo-colonialist in its attitude. The big city boy comes in and solves a case for the rural bumpkins is its own problematice trope that I wasn't happy to see hauled out again, but the real kicker was the way two black Londoners came into a region that was seen as socially Welsh even if it was territoriality English (a fraught field as anyone who remembers the slogan "Come how to a real fire in the valleys" remembers) and it is they who then birth a new river spirit based on them in Welsh/Rural English territory and this is a good thing apparently. The author is completely politically tone-deaf to the current climate in which the dominating position of London is negatively affecting the rest of the UK. It is just icky.

Plus he blew the ending of the book totally in order to avoid having to continue the plot into the next book or blow his already Douglas Adamsed deadline even further. It was just an asspull with far too little set up, and too much London supremacism.

Re: Rivers of London series: Foxglove Summer

(Anonymous) 2016-02-20 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
>wales
>mattering
>london
>not the greatest city in the world

wew lad

maybe if country bumpkins don't want to get colonized they shouldn't be so backwards

Re: Rivers of London series: Foxglove Summer

(Anonymous) 2016-02-20 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Sad thing is, this could actually be the author posting here. That is his mainstream views.

Re: Rivers of London series: Foxglove Summer

(Anonymous) 2016-02-20 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
what did you dislike about the ending? I think he didn't set it up for anything better, so I wasn't really disappointed.

to be honest I didn't even remember that the territory was Welsh belong the short fight with the Welsh rivers. in hindsight he really handwaved that.

I think he had difficulties writing a believable country setting without making it "quirky" with alien spotters, nudists etc.

Re: Rivers of London series: Foxglove Summer

(Anonymous) 2016-02-20 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I felt he set up, intentionally or not, a really compelling plot thread with Peter captive by the Elf court and done in a way that he was bound by his own oath. I felt that there was nearly an entire book's worth of material in finding a way to undo that knot and get Peter out honestly and fairly since Peter often makes a big deal of his own word and Nightingale always made it really a big thing that magical oaths are serious business. To then have Beverley "makes me wish Wesley Crusher were here instead as he is less annoying" Brook turns up and says basically that Peter can't go with them for reasons unexplained and somehow this will not invalidate the deal Peter made at all and reset the situation back to where it was before Peter made it, that smacked of an asspull. Plus I follow his twitter account and blog and he was kind of freaking out a bit over having missed his deadlines, repeatedly, so I know he must have been looking for a reset button to get to press.

He also dropped one of the set up mysteries back in Broken Homes regarding what Molly was doing with the computer in The Folly. That had to be resolved in the Body Works comicbook. She has a cooking blog and twitter account.

Re: Rivers of London series: Foxglove Summer

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
oh, you're right... I forgot about that. If only he had done that!

The scene in the fairy land was not very memorable to me. I took away that Beverley already had a claim on him, or something like that?

Earlier I had assumed that the old plastic rucksack they found was a sign that the missed girls had time travelled - like how abducted or lost people turn up many years later. if time moved differently in fairy land a book of Peter trying to leave would have been very feasible without missing out on the situation with Lesly.

Re: Rivers of London series: Foxglove Summer

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
The problem with Bev insisting she has a claim on him is that, if she has then Peter has not explicitly consented to it and that runs into a huge mess of consent issues. We've been shown throughout the series that magical claims and allegiances are a big deal, and if Bev has snuck one on him then it ought to have been called out explicitly in text too.

Re: Rivers of London series: Foxglove Summer

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
would be interesting if their relationship really does have some creepy and complicated consequences for Peter.

re: allegiances. sure, there were some set-ups for it, but all the intrigue scenes weren't realized well. technically there are different fractions, but they lack strong individual motives that would make them clash among each other aside from the big Bad vs Evil.

Maybe Tyburn will get her rise to power, but until then...
Lesley is really the only player who was unpredictable.