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F!S Anon Meme (the ??th!)

Secrets, rants, opinions, anything you want to say about your fandom or a fandom or fandom in general, do it here! Anonymously, of course. Get it all off your chest.

Some ground rules:
1. Going anon is encouraged but not absolutely required (for those who struggle with captchas and stuff).
2. No autoplaying/autolooping embeds, or embeds that cover/stretch the screen.
3. No dropping personal info or IRL contact info, etc.

That's about it, though!

I'll be linking some general/general-fandom threads I see so people don't repost new threads with the same stuff. If you want me to link your thread up here, drop a link in the first comment!

List of threads:

Favorite FSers
Your diehard fandoms
NSFW confession thread
Topics you wish FS would stop wanking about
What do you want FS to talk about more?
(Pan)fandom discussion post
General opinions
Fapping material?
Random rants

Comments

Re: SPECTRE

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, anon, let me tell you the sad tale of my thoughts of Spectre.

Much like Skyfall, Spectre is the latest installment of a huge series of film, some good, some bad. On top of that, it's the sequel to Skyfall. Skyfall was important, as it got the franchise out of the writer's strike-Quantum-of-Solace murky pit of critical and financial disappointment.

Skyfall pays tribute to the movies of old in a very self-aware way, but the writing can get pretty deep at times too, for a James Bond movie at least. I resonated deeply with some of its themes, as a Western European. It's a commentary on finding your place in the world both as an indivual and as someone raised in a culture that seems to have a hard time catching up with the rest of the world.

Spectre has nothing like that in its writing. To some extent, the writers know its plot and its theme are weak. Instead, they keep on making references to the old Bond movies by reintroducing Blofeld. I would be cool with that, but they decided they were going to scavenge a much better movie, Casino Royale, to get the dramatic elements they need.

Casino Royale? I loved it, loved it as much as Skyfall. It's dark and it clashes violently with "tradtional Bond". Some people hate it because they hate Bourne Bond. I think Craig's Bond is nothing like Bourne. I think the darkness is necessary, because Bond needs to reflect the era it's currently in.
In Casino Royale, Bond meets a woman that will change him for ever. She allows him to express his feelings, allows the character to fall in love, to feel his trust in someone be betrayed. It shapes and changes him forever. She's also a well-realized character on her own, with her own goals that doesn't match the male lead's ones. She's a tragic character and some people can read that as fridging. I disagree. In the end, she decides that she would rather die alone than take the risk to die with James Bond, so in the end there was some good left in her. TL;DR : I love Vesper.

Then Spectre shits all over that, and gives Bond a manic pixie dream therapist who ~changes Bond by telling him all he believes in is wrong. He's healed by her instead of healing all on his own. It makes it sound like he's going to be happy forever once he runs away with her. As a character, she's pretty badly written, going from hating his dad to loving him in 20 minutes and falling for Bond because that's what girls do in James Bond movies. She's pretty terrible. I know it's a shitty reasoning for real people, but both she and Vesper are fictional characters, so I'll say it anyway. Bond deserved a better written character, especially if you make no qualms about CR-Bond equalling Spectre-Bond.


TL;DR : I hate Spectre because it shits all over Casino Royale's legacy.

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[(Anonymous)]

I don't know anything about this, but I love reading your thoughts, heh.