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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-21 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #3336 ]


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Re: Feminism, but not like that

(Anonymous) 2016-02-21 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, but here's where that line of thinking gets iffy:

Let's say you're part of a racial or ethnic group that historically has been (and continues to be) persecuted and demonized. Now let's say that the feminists calling for solidarity among ALL women are the very same feminists bashing your people for being "backwards and patriarchal", and in doing so are inadvertently making use of the very same rhetoric that has historically been used to justify the slaughter of your people.

Let's go a step further and say that these feminists aren't actually interested in hearing the perspectives of you and other women from your group; they just want to make you into another cause they can fight for to feel good about themselves and further their personal agendas. They will ignore the feminist activism and other subversive activities of women WITHIN your culture so they can build up this White Saviour sort of narrative around themselves, wherein they rescue the Poor Oppressed Minority Women from the EEEEEEVIL Barbaric Minority Culture. (And if that makes them complacent in spreading racist/xenophobic ideas, so what? The Feminist Agenda is more important that anything else.)

Now do you see why some of us are wary of the idea that solidarity between women is always the #1 Most Important Thing Ever and all other social justice issues can and should be pushed aside in favour of it?

Re: Feminism, but not like that

(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Agreed. Although, the reverse is also true. I sometimes get annoyed with people who talk about this, but then aren't willing to talk about, for example, minority men being sexist (or gay men). It goes both ways. No one type of oppression is better or worse than any other. And I do sometimes feel like sexism is almost seen as not as bad as other forms of oppression by some people.

Re: Feminism, but not like that

(Anonymous) 2016-02-22 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
+10000000 I'm so very with you on this.