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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-21 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #3336 ]


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blitzwing: ([magi] drakon)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-02-25 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
This is gonna be long, skip it you want. I don't mind agreeing to disagree at all. (Sorry this response is late, but I wanted a while to think on this).

Above you said radfems are categorically distinct from intersectional feminists, with which I partly disagree - there are some ideological distinctions but there is also an ideological spectrum, which is why I think the term "extremist" applies to radfems in comparison to intersectional feminists.


I don't think radfems are just an extreme version of intersectional feminists though--radfems aren't just inter!feminists'views taken to extremes. They don't have really have the same views in the first place. Intersectional feminists are much more rooted in privilege theory and similar sociological concepts as an explanation for inequality, whereas radfems look to biology.

Both believing misogyny is wrong isn't really enough to unify them to me. Egalitarians and humanists believe misogyny is wrong but that doesn't make them feminists. Just like religious fundies believe in biological essentialism, but that doesn't make them radfems-or make radfems religions fundies.

A Muslim and a Christian both believe in one god and an afterlife, but they're not just casual/extreme versions of the other, despite both being in the same group (monotheist religions). [Sorry if that's a bad analogy.]

I'm asking for examples of what you call "extremists intersectional feminists"

Basically using intersectional feminists ideas to justify extreme actions. For instance, the harassment/bullying of Zamii until she attempted suicide, could be seen as an extremist action--and it was justified by some because she allegedly perpetuated bigotry.

Likewise, the bomb threats that were made against Gamergate meetups would be another example of an action done by extremists, if it were done by intersectional feminists.