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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-22 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #3337 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3337 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-02-23 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Me too, anon. Me too. There was just something so redeemable about him.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-23 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
You aren't alone, 'nonny. I..I felt the same way about Kefka. :c
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-02-23 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
There's an implication that Kefka's mind was damaged by the procedure that gave him magic, but he's pretty far gone by the time you meet him. I don't think there was any believable way to pull him back from the brink.

(Personally, I wish I could have saved Shadow. "There are people in this world who have chosen to kill their own emotions . . .")
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-02-23 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Poor Kefka.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-23 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
I don't quite get this, to be completely honest. It's been awhile since I've last played VI, but... I just remember him being basically your run-of-the-mill crazy baddie. I don't recall him really having much personality to redeem at all, that's not chalked down to Joker-like crazy. Not that I think he's a bad villain, he's an awesome villain, but someone will have to remind me what about him comes across as redeemable because I can't think of any scenes, and I'm pretty guilty of woobifying villains if I feel they can be redeemed.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2016-02-23 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. If I'm remembering the backstory properly (it's been...a long time, so I might not be), he's arguably a victim...in the backstory. But by the time of the actual game, he'd lost whatever shreds of sanity he had had left, and any chance of redemption with them.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-24 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Late to the comment section, but, like the person above mentioned, I'm pretty sure it's mentioned within the game that Kefka was an early subject of the procedure to make ordinary people into Magitek Knights, and that this broke his mind. So in this sense, his story foil is actually Celes -- a person who also (non-consensually, when she was a child) underwent the same procedure. She turned out fine -- although initially complicit in the empire's bad deeds, she turns against them when she can't bring herself to continue doing them anymore, and joins your party. She and Kefka are both guinea pigs, but Kefka has the bad luck of being the first test subject, which changes his mind forever. He goes off the deep end and goes on to commit genocide and throw the world into chaos and such, but all that is a result of the empire's ambition and willingness to treat its own people as pawns in the pursuit of power.

So I can see the sympathy?

Kefka's backstory also seems kind of similar/an inspiration for Sephiroth's, which also involves a fairly normal/well-respected soldier experiencing a madness-inducing moment, after which he's pretty annoying, crazy, and nihilist? There's still the "what if" scenario where you're curious what he would have been like had that not happened (and here you can go wild and make him the most awesome, attractive, sensitive, interesting dude, if you wish).
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-02-23 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
gorgeous art is gorg.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2016-02-23 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
Wow...somebody actually managed to draw Kefka femmier than Amano's original drawings without outright genderflipping him? I'm actually impressed.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-23 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
My goal would have been just to stop him from gaining the world ending power. An outcome that ends with him alive and saner would be nice, but far lower on my list of priorities.

He enjoys killing people too much for me to be very sympathetic to him. I liked General Leo.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-23 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
*squints at anons/named above* Ugh, in the backstory, maybe. But as he was in canon? LOLOLOL, fuck no and fuck all your shit, this guy didn't have a redeemable bone in his body.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-23 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
I say this as a huge Kefka fan, but no. Honestly I even doubt the validity of his backstory.

I guess the most similar as far as worldview would be Kuja and I could even buy at least a partial (though not complete) redemption plot for him. But not for Kefka.

Is this because of his speech in Dissidea?