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I honestly don't see the Mary Sue thing with Rey. At all. She isn't Luke. She didn't grow up with an aunt and uncle looking out for her. She grew up on her own, having to learn things for herself. She's all she had. So of course things come easier to her, even the Force. She had to learn as she went. She's used to learning new skills quickly, and she's probably felt the Force all along.

http://i.imgur.com/IeEjggH.jpg

Nope. That completely ignores their different circumstances, the differences in the galaxy and in characters like Han and Leia.

Tell me how someone stuck (basically) alone on a desert planet magically knows how to fly a plane like a pro, tactically fly a plan against enemy combatants, use jedi weapons, and use Force mind tricks.

And don't say because "the force!" Because we've seen dozens of characters who are Force sensitive and know how to use the force. And ALL of them (Luke, Obiwan, Anakan, all the hundreds of other Jedi) had to TRAIN to use it properly.

Even that dude from Spaceballs did more training to learn the Schwartz than Rey did.

In Star Wars, there has always been the connection between flying things like speeders and being able to fly ships. Luke flew a speeder only and yet was an amazing X-Wing pilot with no training. Rey also flew her own speeder thing, so she knows how to fly.

And someone who has taught themselves a lot of skills and had to survive would be able to pick up other skills easier, including the Force, than someone like Luke who had been protected all his life. What we saw was someone used to picking things up quickly and improvising. She still needs training. Up against someone who had more training than Kylo did she would have easily lost.

Funny how Anakin (a slave who was a podracer and could build machines while trying to survive as ya know, a slave) still needed to train to use the Force. Especially considering he is supposedly the most powerful Jedi ever.

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amazing X-Wing pilot with no training

Except not. He trained with Han on the Millennium Falcon.

I'm sorry, what? Having the Force gives you instant muscle control to unknown tasks perfectly that level of affinity? And even Luke had to LEARN how to use the Force. You don't just know how to use the Force and then know how to use the Force enough to just know how to fly a ship you've never been in and maneuver it into exaggeratedly physics-defying stunts.

Absurd. I loved her, but no denying she was absurdly awesome.

in the original movie of IV, there is a scene of Luke playing a bit with a model ship (and I think the expanded editions actually put that same ship in the background somewhere) when he's dealing with R2 and 3P0 for the first time. That is supposed to be the ship he hits womprats with "back home." And according to OLD EU, because god knows what it means with the new stuff, that ship is set up the exact same way as an X-Wing since they're both made my INCOM.

So Luke can qualify on the X-Wing since he's had practice, just, not in space. And the canyon he's talking about, is pretty much the same style Trench Run as the Death Star. *shrug* Yes, they probably should have actually shown this, but you know. Time and money.

She is the Bella of Star Wars. I bet everyone this she is so beautiful, even though she is so awkward and misunderstood.

Also, she has weird teeth like Stewart.

Oh for goodness sake. Teeth really? America has this weird obsession with teeth being perfectly uniform and pure white. Teeth don't need to look like that.

There were literally no mentions about her attractiveness? It was all about her skills and her kindhearted nature.

This is such a ridiculous comment.

Are you trying to give me a rage embolism

She'll probably have the same career as Stewart after SW is over too.

Being a cult darling taking on daring and meaningful roles because she doesn't need money and winning critical acclaim?

No, a c-list actress no one gives a shit about anymore.

If she's c-list it's because she made a conscious choice to step away from fame and to shape the roles she chose around that. Doing the role she did in Clouds of Sils Maria, and getting the critical mentions she did for it, is not something that happens to someone with no talent or options.

THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE.

(I'm not even more than very mildly a Stewart fan, but the blinding hate on so many people have for her is bizarre.)

Try again, Nonny, because you couldn't be any father from fact.

*farther

get out vader

See? Nonny got the joke!

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I give her Mary Sue points for one reason and one reason only.

Let's say you're a 13-year-old Star Wars fan in, say, the late 80s. And you're writing an epic saga set 30 years after RotJ, about a new evil that arises and a new hero must fight. (Let's leave gender entirely out of this; you can be a girl or a boy, writing about a hero or a heroine. Let's also leave out all personal characteristics of your character. We can literally factor all those things out of the math here.)

And Old Han Solo gives your character the Millennium Falcon because they're awesome, and then Old Han dies so Chewie becomes your character's new best friend, and also your character gets Luke's original lightsaber because they're the only one destined to wield it.

What would you call that?

I feel like this is the only sensible point in this entire thread, and nobody's read it.

Also, after Old Han dies, Leia chooses to hug/console your character (whom she's only known for 5 minutes) instead of Chewie (whom she's known for years and knows has an incredibly strong bond with Han) because your new character is obviously more important.

Good point!

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