[ SECRET POST #3338 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3338 ⌋

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Re: Mark Does Stuff

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I mean, it's largely a cultural thing in Americ as well. And there's a lot of complexity underlying these things - you can talk at great length about what those categories mean, how they're constructed, and all of that. It's really not as simple as just looking at skin color. On the macro level, yes, you can divide everything into "white" and "POC", but that's something that itself is only possible for historical reasons.

Like, the concept of "white" isn't in the final analysis about the color of the skin. It's about who is seen as white, who is seen as normal, who is seen as part of the mainstream order, who is seen as belonging in the country - all of these kinds of things. You have groups of people who, at one time, were not seen as white, and who are now seen as white. Because it changes over time and because it's not just a question of skin tone. The thing that makes POC is an important category isn't because POC have dark skin; it's because they're the people who are routinely seen as other, as immigrants / foreigners / outsiders, as not being part of the natural order, as speaking differently, etc, etc, etc.

When people in America talk about Latinos being POC, they are not talking about Portuguese and Spanish as being intrinsically different from the experiences of Germans or Scots. Rather they're talking about the experience of people from Latin America, who when they come to America are seen as different, as foreign, as outsiders, as poor, and who are exploited and looked down on. That's the reality that's being referred to when Latinos are called POC. It has nothing at all to do with people in Portugal and Spain and yet no matter how many times people from America repeat this, Europeans keep remarking in bewildered wonderment that they simply don't understand this whole Latino thing.

Re: Mark Does Stuff

[(Anonymous)]

Then, I'm sorry, but there needs to be other fucking names that "white" and "people of color/POC" if there's more too it than skin tone.

Re: Mark Does Stuff

[(Anonymous)]

there are. lots of them. like, for instance, Hispanic and Latino. 'white' and 'POC' are umbrella terms. they're still useful as general abstractions (for a lot of complicated, historical and cultural reasons).