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⌈ Secret Post #3339 ⌋

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[Taylor Swift]

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(Hamilton the Musical)

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[Pokemon]

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[Supernatural - Jensen Ackles and Misha Collins]

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[Pokemon]

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[Battlestar Galactica]

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[Fried Green Tomatoes]

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10. [TW: rape]

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[Good Omens, by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman]

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I actually haven't heard her live, but I have heard that she's not as good, which is a shame. But I can't really get too upset because I haven't really heard anyone that sounds even half as good live. The benefit of post-production I guess.

For musicians who sound as good live as they do in the studio, you'd have better luck with older artists, who made their careers before we had so much technological wizardry that makes up for wobbly pitch, a weak voice, etc.

Yeah, I HAVE noticed that. It's not really modern music's fault, it's just that we have developed a need to make things overly perfect rather than real. Which has the unfortunate side effect of even good singers sounding like crap live because you're expecting autotuned goodness.

I actually disagree. I dislike autotune, and I think that it does not compare in the least to really great singers who can sing live. And trust me, there still are plenty of them out there.
I've been to some live performances myself that were absolutely amazing, and I know people irl who are extremely good singers live.
What ayrt is saying is that in the olden days, singers HAD to sing well because they had no other option. Today, they do.

Also a good point, I don't seem to be wording myself well today. My point was more that even people who are good are not going to be as 'flawless' as they are in recording and it can be a bit of a shock to people used to things that were edited in post.

But for many singers, the reason they sound better in recording is not because of autotune or editing, but because they can do as many takes as they want until it comes out 100% perfect, and they can also do some splicing to get the Perfect Take.
I have a friend who's a singer, and he's awesome, and he also performs great live. But there was one song that at the end, in the recorded version, he goes way up into this super dramatic high note. In the performance he doesn't do that, because he knows there's a chance he might not hit it properly, and that would suck big time, so better not risk it. It's not that he CAN'T sing that note, or that he autotuned it. It's just that sometimes shit happens when singing live.

So I guess I agree with you that people will sound more flawless in recording than live, but even that doesn't necessarily have to be because of autotune.

This comes back to a flaw in me expressing myself: I specifically referenced autotune in a flippant remark, but it was in a conversation regarding post-production as a whole,including doing a million takes. So basically, yes, I agree!

Ahh, ok! I get you now. We are in agreement, then.

Though I still personally think that there are a lot of artists nowadays who really aren't particularly good singers. Some are really not worth hearing live...

I actually tend to not like recordings of live performances, so I can only speak for ones I've personally witnessed (of which there are few). But I am told quite a few people I like are terrible live.

Hmmm, well, it's partly that, but I don't think it's solely a case of higher standards. It's more to do with the fact that a couple generations ago, we did not have the technology to compensate for being a less than stellar singer, or not being able to sing in tune. If you couldn't do that on your own, it greatly decreased your chances of having a career in music. But now? technology CAN compensate for many shortcomings, so it's entirely possible to take someone who has a mediocre singing voice, tweak it in the studio, and then market the hell out of their image so they have a career.

Just talked along these lines with Ketita and what it boiled down to is that this is what I was TRYING to say, but I am tired and poorly expressing myself.

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