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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-02-29 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #3344 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3344 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia]


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[The Vision/Wanda Maximoff (Marvel's The Avengers)]


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[New Tricks]


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[One Punch Man]


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[Karen Page, Daredevil (Netflix)]


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[Gamer's Guide to Pretty Much Everything]


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[Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D]


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[Good Omens]


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[J.K. Rowling]


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[Ace Attorney 6]


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(Borderlands, Dameon Clarke)













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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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(Anonymous) 2016-03-01 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Same. I see him all over my dash and I don't get the appeal.

OP:

(Anonymous) 2016-03-01 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who finds him an interesting character, but I do definitely see people who pretend his actions were totally right/view him entirely as a victim as totally missing the point. I'm curious where a lot of the leather-pantsing is coming from.

I mainly hang out in mostly-female (who are attracted to males) fandom spaces where you easily chalk it up to the assumption of "attractive = worthy of redemption" à la Loki in the Avengers movie (I specify the Avengers because Loki was actually portrayed fairly sympathetically in the first Thor movie and as a total dick in the Avengers and STILL had fangirls squealing about redeeming him)

But I know this also exists in straight-male dominated gaming spaces where is appearance would be much less of a factor, so I'm genuinely curious as to what the original source of the romanticizing his character came from.

Any suggestions?

Re: OP:

(Anonymous) 2016-03-01 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure the romanticizing is exclusively because of the female parts of the otherwise male-dominated fandom.

OP:

(Anonymous) 2016-03-01 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
Handsome Jack still managed to become popular enough that nearly all of the games feature him, including the prequel that focuses on his origin story. He must have a fair share of fans in the male-dominated side of fandom, as female gamer's purchases likely wouldn't be enough for companies to justify his inclusion as a money maker.

There are large parts of the female fandom that outright despise him however (sometimes to "if you like this character at all you're an ABUSE APOLOGIST" levels) along with significantly more level-headed fans.

I'm just genuinely curious because there's likely a portion of the "male" side of the fandom that white-washes or otherwise justifies his actions to the point of being problematic and I'm curious as to how these discussions differ from ones on the female side of the fandom (other than the obvious "Handsome Jack my son/boyfriend/husband and did nothing wrong" that sometimes comes up)

Re: OP:

(Anonymous) 2016-03-01 09:33 am (UTC)(link)
I've wondered about this too. I see many people who came into the fandom around the time TPS was released, so they probably get a very different idea about Jack's personality than those who have played BL2 before TPS. As one of the latter, I have real problems with all those theories about how Jack is the true hero, especially if they also feature Lilith as the true villain.