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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-05 12:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #3349 ]


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Re: The Hobbit Movies

(Anonymous) 2016-03-05 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I used to agree with you about the liking the fact that they gave some characterization to the dwarves but now I feel it would've been better if they hadn't. Giving them distinct personalities for the actors is great, but it felt like they wanted to showcase each one and give them "moments" which ended up detracting from the characters we should've cared about. They shouldn't have given lines to any dwarf not named Thorin, Fili, Kili, or Balin. Maybe one other dwarf (Bombur or Dori) but no more than that.

I've talked to a lot of people who didn't read the book and any BTS stuff. None of them can tell the dwarves apart even after watching 3 movies. They know Thorin and Balin and Kili (but usually not by name for him). Nobody else. The story would've been served better if they'd had the dwarves but kept them in the background so the audience would know who they're supposed to be invested in. I feel like PJ got hung up on the minutia of the dwarves and lost the forest for the trees.

Re: The Hobbit Movies

(Anonymous) 2016-03-05 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt

Hmmm, I guess that's sort of true. (However, it would've been nice to perhaps elaborate on Gloin, being the father of Gimli who a lot of viewers would've known.)

Re: The Hobbit Movies

(Anonymous) 2016-03-05 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I agree. He was one of my candidates for the extra dwarf if Balin wasn't sufficient. It would've also been great if he hadn't been so 2-dimensional. Gimli was an eloquent, amazing character. Since they didn't do him justice in the LOTR films and there's been a lot of people over the years who've pointed it out, it would've been great if the filmmakers had given Gloin the eloquent lines from Gimli about what stone means to a dwarf, etc. But also have him be blustery. I think that would've been a great moment to show Bilbo coming to respect the dwarves.

Re: The Hobbit Movies

(Anonymous) 2016-03-05 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I've read the books and I still had trouble telling the dwarves apart except for Thorin, Fili, Kili, Balin and Bombur. I'm not even sure the movie succeeding in trying to characterize all the dwarf characters so they each had a moment. In hindsight, I'd have been okay if they hadn't bothered trying.