[ SECRET POST #3349 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3349 ⌋

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Early today, places to go!

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Comments

Re: Confessions thread

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think F!S has a hate for him at all. There's just one insane anti-fan who will always bring him up, and whenever anyone mentions Firefly offhand they go into a spitting rage. I know there are plenty of Firefly fans here though.

Re: Confessions thread

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, so it's mostly that one anon? Good to know.

But isn't there some kind of thing where people have decided he's not really a feminist, and is therefore trash, or something? People on the internet, that is. In real life, all the feminist I've chatted with think Joss Whedon is pretty great. *shrugs*

Re: Confessions thread

[(Anonymous)]

There is a movement to re-evaluate his works. The problem is Whedon himself is always keen to say he is a feminist rather than waiting for women to say he is one, that pisses women's groups off a lot. Plus his feminist characters, which were feminist in the 1990s, are not the type of feminist that many women are looking for now. Combine the datedness of the latter with the anger at the former and you have the makings of a pretty good backlash.

The Firefly thing is easier to explain, about six or seven years ago there was a meme/fad for casting Firefly characters as characters in other works. It was mostly harmless but some Firefly fans (#NotAllFireflyFans #YesAllFireflyfans) took it too far and kept on it long after the meme had died. That annoyed people. The arguments for Firefly being a lost classic have been re-examined now too, and the general consensus is that its claim to be a classic is actually because it was cancelled early. It never had time to do the padding episodes, or tin-ear for character episodes (Inara to be raped to death by Reavers, for example) that every longer running show does. Plus Fox and tv in general has pretty much eased up on the practice of early cancellations. A lot of the Firefly championing was based on the general anger at that tv trend.

Finally, no it is not just one anon. Not all anon who dislike something you like are the same anon. One of the anons is particularly frothing, but not all objections to Firefly or Joss Whedon's works have been frothing. Many have been polite.