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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-06 03:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #3350 ]


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Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-06 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
two people are saying ridiculous and horrendous things

one believes them with burning religious fervor
the other one is a known idiot and troll

yeah, imma go with the idiot and troll

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-06 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
What has Cruz said that's even come close to banning Muslims or creating a Muslim data base? If these things were said by anyone else people would shit, but somehow Trump gets a pass. Just for the lolz hahaha goddamn you people deserve this man....
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Re: politics

[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-03-06 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
It's really, really funny you think anyone is giving Trump a pass because we think Cruz is worse.

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-06 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Why are you giving trump a pass?
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Re: politics

[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-03-06 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah. You're trolling, I get it now. Okay then, have a nice day.

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-06 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Cruz's wife recently said that if Cruz got into office, America would "know the face of God"

p.s. don't move the goalposts, this thread is a theoretical decision between Trump and Cruz. i assure you most of us will not be voting for either of them in November

lol away about your misplaced superiority though

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-06 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not moving any goal posts. I know most people on here are left leaning and don't keep up with the republican race in a serious fashion. I honestly don't think they know what a mistake underestimating Trump is. Is that supposed to scare me? As if there is a republican who wouldn't mention god?

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-06 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
you are taking this waaaaaaay too personally

nobody is trying to scare you, we are voicing opinions on whether we would prefer cruz or trump and our reasons for believing the way we do

people can disagree with you without being ill informed - you are the first to throw that accusation out and it's condescending in exactly the same way that it's condescending when dems say that republicans are just too ill informed to vote in their own interests

arguments against your arguments are not threats, maybe you aren't ready to discuss politics yourself

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-06 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Good God. I'm being condescending and you tell me I'm not ready to discuss politics? Are you even real? What makes me think people are ill informed is not that people disagree with me but the points they bring up and the constant refrain that they think trump is a troll. And you were the people to tell me I didn't know what I was talking about because you assummed I didn't know what a dominionist was. I assure you, you do not threaten me. But I think to are wrong. I take that seriously, not personally.

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-06 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
i was being condescending because you started it, and i gave you that link to dominionism because you said there was no proof that ted cruz is looney and i was linking you proof. not because i thought you were ill informed. then apparently you took that as some kind of personal attack on yourself because ... idek. you're a difficult person to argue with if you're going to take all statements of fact as insinuations that you did not know the thing, rather than as a factual argument against what you are arguing

thats why i say maybe you're not ready to discuss things

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-06 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Bro

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/condescending

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-06 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
thank you for the contribution, but it's not an argument against anything I said and in fact i mentioned being condescending above even

i'm happy to continue if you have a relevant argument

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-07 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
What you mean just linking definitions aren't an argument?

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-07 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
not unless they are directly a counterargument to a statement the first person was making, which was the case when i did it and not the case when you did it because context matters. now you are literally focusing on attacking me and not even pretending to reference the original topic at hand, and this is going nowhere, so i decline to engage further with you unless you can bring it back to the topic of politics. i believe the last arguments were:

"What has Cruz said that's even come close to banning Muslims or creating a Muslim data base? If these things were said by anyone else people would shit, but somehow Trump gets a pass. Just for the lolz hahaha goddamn you people deserve [Trump]...."

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"Cruz's wife recently said that if Cruz got into office, America would "know the face of God"

p.s. don't move the goalposts, this thread is a theoretical decision between Trump and Cruz. i assure you most of us will not be voting for either of them in November"

continue or do not, but the thread has a topic

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-07 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
"Know the face of God" is vague fucking religious bullshit that could be interpreted a million different ways from innocuous to horrifying so I literally do not care because everyone right of Bernie says shit about God now. How many ways can you interpret muslim data base? I moved no goalposts so stop fucking saying that.

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-07 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
technically, you did when you implied we deserve trump. obviously almost nobody in this thread is truly backing trump for president and that is a moving of goalposts between the question "who is better if you had to choose" and "who do you want for president"

1) know the face of God coupled with the dominionism as context leans hard toward horrifying. more so when you add in the fact that cruz is seasoned, albeit hated, politician that has forced the government to bow to him before, albeit temporarily through shutdowns

2) trump is spewing horrific bullshit but there is no evidence at all that he will follow through on it or that he is even capable of following through on it because he has no idea what he is doing or what is within the bounds of constitutional law

3) you seem to be under the impression that everyone is laughing trump off as a blowhard because we don't know better and haven't given any thought to how it would play out in practice, and that is not the case

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-07 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
4) and here's a new argument if you want even more, under Trump the uncontrollable, the GOP would break apart and be forced to reform itself as something new. under cruz it would most likely stick together but head even further to the right

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-07 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Trump has aligned the gop with cruz. Until now they fucking hated him.

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-07 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
yes and now that the gop has aligned itself with cruz, you want cruz with actual backing in power? no thanks

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-07 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
But this is getting ridiculous, I have to back trump to get out of the shitpile trump made?

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-07 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
that's a leading question. you are biased in framing the situation as "the shitpile trump made" because you could just as easily say "the shitpile cruz made" or "the shitpile the GOP made by not voting for Kasich or Rubio"

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-07 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
No, I never said anyone was voting for trump and there are myriad reasons you all could deserve him. Nice assumptions though.

1. Yeah maybe, but that's more assumptions and lol at the godly throne of government shutdown.

2. And there's no evidence that he won't because he's an unknown quantity. He's never had that power before, but he has tried to use the law to crush people's lives, so we'll see. The law is the law, but he has popular backing.

3. But you are still laughing him off as a blowhard. I'm just betting against that.

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-07 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
at this point everything is assumptions because like everyone including yourself keeps saying trump is an unknown quantity. in the end it boils down to which you'd prefer, the known, proven, right-in-the-record superconservative tea partier, or the unknown who has exaggerated literally everything to this point, leading it to not be delusional that he is currently still doing so

i believe he is a blowhard, there is evidence in his entire life history pointing to the fact that he is one, but i am not 'laughing him off' as a candidate with so many people genuinely backing him. he is a blowhard but he is saying things certain people want to hear. however, the fact is that he can claim a lot and say a lot, but there is little of his promises he can keep from t he white house, if you consider him as a serious candidate. he can be both at the same time

Re: politics

(Anonymous) 2016-03-07 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
this was fun but the democratic debate is starting and i'm going to watch it, so if you want to continue i'll be back later.