[ SECRET POST #3354 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3354 ⌋

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09. [ warning for homophobia / transphobia / misogyny take your pick, people seem to be divided on this one ]













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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Is it not erasing the identity of trans men to steadfastly claim you're a lesbian and attracted to them, though?

Is it not exactly the same thing as a man claiming he's still totally straight yo because his trans bf still 'has a vagina'?

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I'm not sure where you got that from my comment. I agree with the OP that it's wrong to refuse to recognise someone's identity ("I was nodding up until...")

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I think I replied to the wrong comment, my bad.

[(Anonymous)]

I think a lot of it comes down to bad framing tbh

like it's cool to say 'I'm attracted to feminine presentation and vagina on an 'either/or' basis rather than a 'strictly both' basis but the majority of my partners have been women so I feel like lesbian reflects my identity better than bisexual even it's if a little fluid and these particular dudes are hot to me'

but it's a lot less respectful of transmen for someone to say 'I'm SUPER a lesbian but you have a VAGINA that you may or may not be super dysphoric about so I'd TOTALLY HAVE LESBIAN SEX WITH YOU because you don't REEEEALLY count as a man because of your GREAT VAGINA'

which is definitely rude and bullshit

exaggerated, obviously, but I think you get the point

and it's all further complicated by transmen who spent some portion of their adult lives identifying as butch lesbians before transition, and having to navigate that with their partners/friends/support system, so there's a lot of sensitivity to both rejection and minimization of their identity.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, but these people don't appear to be saying 'I'm a lesbian that will bend for trans men' they seem to be saying 'I'm a lesbian and trans men don't make me any less of a lesbian because they are exceptions'. There's a big difference in tone there

'I'm a straight guy that will bend for trans men'
'I'm a straight guy that likes trans men and they have vaginas so I'm still straight'

[(Anonymous)]

yeah, exactly

you have pretty much de-exaggerated my OTT examples, this is what I was trying to get at

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah unfortunately the people that OP are talking about appear to be the latter type