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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-10 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3354 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3354 ⌋

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09. [ warning for homophobia / transphobia / misogyny take your pick, people seem to be divided on this one ]













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(Anonymous) 2016-03-11 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder if part of the writers' issue with everyone's PTSD had to do with the sheer scale of the fuck-uppedness they created.

It was awful enough that Dean spent months in hell...then all of a sudden, nope, time moves differently there so it was more like forty years! And then Sam gets a century of torture, too! And that's on top of everything else the boys had going on before either of them ever died.

After all that shit, my guess is the writers realized they just didn't want to deal with processing the immense volume of trauma they put everyone through and just kind of minimized the effects.

Note: I stopped watching during season 6, so I apologize if I've misremembered things.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-03-11 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
My issue is mostly with the balance. I feel like Sam is allowed to deal with his trauma a bit, and but Dean is never allowed that chance. It just seems like they don't treat the brothers equally.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-11 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
That's very fair. And that's probably why fandom (or the corners I found) tended to favor Dean so heavily. Someone had to, as long as canon didn't.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2016-03-11 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. I mean - I still watch Show, I love it to death, I love the boys (fictional and real). But the simple fact of the matter is, if they were 'real', they'd spend most of their time curled up in a ball in the corner and/or medicated to the eyeballs. These boys are *fucked up*, and we're lucky they can actually walk and talk, much less function normally.

I get that the writers can't really give them the massive PTSD that we all know they have, but i wish they'd address it a little more often and little more in the 'real' way.

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[personal profile] luxshine 2016-03-11 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
You totally remember right, and since you stopped in season 6 you totally missed when, in order to insure that Sam wouldn't suffer after said century of (not defined) torture... He gets to forget because CAS absorbs all his pain. So Sam has no trauma, no PTSD, and then abandons Dean and Cas to Purgatory to hook up with a random woman he meets when he hits a dog with the Impala.

While Dean, on top of his Hell time, gets blamed for the Apocalypse (seriously, that was so fucked up that even now it's "The Winchesters started the apocalypse" when Dean was TORTURED to do his part), then spent a whole year in Purgatory which is... well, Monster Heaven, beign chased by monsters just to find Castiel, getting a huge dose of suicidal ideation with it.

Which was promptly turned into "Dean, you have to support Sam or Sam will want to die because you don't trust him enough"


And Sam girls STILL claim that Dean is the bad guy for not understanding Sam.

Ahem. I might be a biiiit bitter about all that.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-11 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
The way the narrative tends to blame Dean while absolving Sam is really frustrating.

Both of the brothers fuck up. Sometimes in big ways. But with Sam it's treated as a mistake or based on external factors, while with Dean it seems to be a lot more about how he did this because he is a messed-up human being.

Case in point, when he killed the Styne kid and it was treated narratively as this moral event horizon, because we'd had a whole episode of watching how this kid didn't want to be what he was.

But Dean didn't have access to any of that information. For all he knew, this kid was just as complicit as any of them and lying to save his own skin.

But nope, Dean's a horrible horrible person for killing him.