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[ SECRET POST #3354 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3354 ⌋

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in comic or movie verse

(MCU Only)

I'm sympathetic to Team Cap, but I'll probably root for Team Iron Man because I like Tony, and he has Natasha and Rhodey while Cap has Hawkeye and Bucky who are honestly the worst. (I'm sorry, but Bucky is boring. And Clint is even more boring than boring.)

What if it were Cap VS Tony with no supporters on either side?

In that case, I would decide based on how their conflict plays out, like which side I'm finding more convincing as I watch the movie. I like both Tony and Steve equally, I think.

Team Cap only because he's my favorite of the two. The comic story was horrible so I don't care either way and I don't know yet enough about the movie arguments to know which side I'll root for.

Team Cap either way.

MCU because screw everyone who wants to kill your best friend because something he did when he was brainwashed.

Comic books because something like the registration act would be abhorrent in real life and people who would support it would not be my friends.

Team Cap in both cases.

The MCU is supposed to make Tony's side more reasonable than the comics ever were, but still the MCU government is awful as fuck and siding with what they want can in no way end well.

I'd be against Iron Man in pretty much any scenario, tbh, so. Cap, obviously.

Haven't read the comics.

I'm Team Cap. For the movies I've watched (still haven't seen Iron Man 3), I feel like Steve's heart is in the right place and he's pretty good at sniffing out bullshit. He seems more together and responsible.

I think Tony has evolved over time but he's still wrapped up in himself (in his own mistakes, etc.). I don't trust Ross, and I side-eye Tony for working with him (apparently?). And we've just been shown that the government (SHIELD) can't always be trusted.

It depends on how it's framed in the movie, but I'm pretty sure Team Cap will get my vote.

Captain America. And I can't see them making me feel for Tony because Iron Man and his ability to overshadow all the other characters with his problems annoys me.

Edited 2016-03-11 02:00 (UTC)

Team Captain, MCU and Comics

MCU, Iron Man all the way.

MCU only because the comic arc was handled so unbelievably badly I choose to ignore it: Team Cap, hands down.

In comic verse? Neither. They were both being idiotic, and I refuse to choose between Team Fascist and Team "Sure, there's a kid with potentially world-destroying powers depending on Reed Richards for his emotional and moral development, and also M-day happened, but the superhero community can totally be trusted to police itself. Because, America!"

In the movie verse, just based on who's on each team, I suspect I'll morally be on Cap's side, but emotionally want to side with Tony. I like the people on Tony's team better, but if I wanted help with ethics, they're not the team I'd choose.

in both comic and movie I am squarely Team Cap. HOW EVER I do think the movie is being smart by seeming to have it start that way and then get difficult - like, but Bucky straight up tries to shoot Tony IN HIS FACE and he may or may not shoot Rhodey out of the sky (which, :(!!!!!!!!!!! my god!) so it looks like they're gonna lose the high ground reallll quick. Making both sides escalate and give both sides a point here is gonna make it so much worse =/

Team #NoNewFriends aka Captain America in the MCU

In the comics? Team You're All Fucking Idiots, Now Go Take A Nap. That arc was a complete disaster, and no one came out looking good.

In the MCU? Team Iron Man all the way. I'm in favor of legal process when at all possible. I have a hard time sympathizing with arguments that oversight for paramilitary organizations staffed entirely by people of mass destruction are a bad thing. (And having a paramilitary organization staffed entirely by people of mass destruction in the first place isn't?) And I generally have a hard time being in favor of the side with the guy who decides shooting someone in the face as a pre-emptive strike* is a valid tactic, especially when that side remains utterly determined to protect that guy from any consequences.

I might change my mind depending on how the movie actually plays out, but that's my stance going into it.

*Presumably. The part where Bucky tries to straight up blow Tony's head off shows Tony apparently uninjured, where he's visibly beaten up in most of his other appearances in the trailer. It's possible it'll turn out to be late in the movie instead, but honestly, there's not many situations in which just walking up and trying to murder an apparently-unarmed human being who isn't posing an immediate danger to anyone at all is a good thing to do. And I don't think they're going to make Tony into the second coming of the Red Skull to justify that.

But can you still put your trust in legal process when the government orchestrating it isn't even trustworthy? Hydra infiltration aside, the guy they now have in charge is General Ross, the bad guy from Incredible Hulk. Considering all the poor decisions he made in that film, I'm not finding a lot of weight in him telling me to take responsibility, sorry.

The government is never 100% perfectly trustworthy. There are flaws in every legal system. That doesn't mean vigilantism or its opposite, trial by "but my friend's a good person and wouldn't do that", is actually a reasonable alternative.

Also, Ross might be in charge of supervillain supermax, but he certainly wouldn't be in charge of an actual trial, any more than the warden of any other prison. His involvement is irrelevant, particularly since we don't know at what point he's going to get involved.

It'd be one thing if Steve's motivation was "I want to be the one to bring my pal in because this Ross guy is a total lunatic", or if the film was about him trying to expose legal corruption/dig up proof of Hydra fuckery/otherwise ensure that Bucky has a fair trial. I just can't sympathize with the motivations as shown in the trailer and other promotional material.

Team Can We Please Do Something About The Genocidal Alien Warlord Currently Attempting To Take Over The Universe

I don't think that memo's reached Earth yet.

well i havent watched the movie so i dont really know where i stand.
in general, not a fan of cap, iron man or winter soldier, so probably not going to watch it

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