[ SECRET POST #3354 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3354 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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09. [ warning for homophobia / transphobia / misogyny take your pick, people seem to be divided on this one ]













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Comments

Re: LoTR and Middle Earth

[(Anonymous)]

Well, that does remind me though, that I wonder how immortal -- but killable -- beings feel about dying a premature death by a fatal injury or illness. I can very easily imagine that the idea of dying of unnatural causes might be even worse and more paranoia-inducing for elves than for humans, because there's no sense of "well, everyone has to die sometime, woulda been nice to live until I got too old to stay alive anymore but it's not THAT big a difference either way so I might as well take this risk" for them. For them dying of unnatural causes would be EXTREMELY unnatural. Humans only lose a few decades of life at the most if they die prematurely, but elves may lose millennia.

TW: Suicide

[(Anonymous)]

*nodding*

Or a terrible injury. Like, being blinded. Or losing a limb.

I wonder if the view on suicide is different. Like, if you're perfectly healthy but maybe depressed, would suicide really change your circumstances? You KNOW you can be reborn eventually, so you'd just be depressed in Mandos instead for a little while.

On the other hand, if you've been blinded/etc. and you can't deal with it, you can kill yourself and be reborn in a brand new, healthy body after some wait-time. Do some elves think that's appropriate (especially as congenital deformities/illnesses/etc. are probably nonexistent)? Is there a culture around that where elves in general think that's an acceptable way to deal with that kind of trauma? Is Namo a-okay with that?

And if that was okay, is there a line? Like when Gwindor returned to Nargothrond, he was "aged" in a way by the trauma (and also mutilated, but I'm just talking about how he lost his beauty and youthfulness). Would it be considered okay to suicide to get his youth back? I figure he'd actually have to do some healing in Mandos for that to work, but for elves, who seem to value beauty so much, maybe that's a very reasonable thing to do? Maybe death sucks but since they live so long, losing a few millennia is actually no big thing.

And, if all that is okay and that's how they think, then what do they make of humans who have no idea where they go when they die? How do they deal with a lack of faith in humans when there's so much more uncertainty? Humans have never met Eru and almost none have met any Valar or Maiar. Those who do meet them will die and their heirs might keep the legend for a bit but it dies off. So, there's no tangible proof of Eru or his teachings for humans, and there's no certainty of what happens to them after death. That's got to be culture shock for elves. For humans, it makes sense to be skeptical, and belief is actually much harder. For elves, they have everything pretty neatly wrapped up for them. Do they see it from a human perspective or does it seem way too alien? And how does that play into the rise of Sauron among humans?