[ SECRET POST #3357 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3357 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Rowling just isn't particularly good at worldbuilding.

THIS. Holy hell, this. I have all sorts of opinions about HP, but one of my biggest criticisms of the series as a whole is quite simply that the basic concept of the wizarding world and how it's juxtaposed with the muggle world doesn't make sense when you stop to think about it. The flaws were less evident early in the series, but when you try to expand beyond a children's book level of suspension of disbelief, the holes start becoming a lot more obvious.

[ketita]

I think that's one of the reasons I never got very deep into the fandom. While I enjoyed the books, I find it better not to think too deeply about what's going on in them.

[(Anonymous)]

This is how I fell out of the fandom tbh. Not that I was ever really super deep into it (I was very shy and didn't speak English).
I basically got older and things started to not make sense anymore if I thought about it for more than five minutes (not just the world building, but also stuff crucial to the story like the twins never even raising an eyebrow at Peter Pettigrew sleeping in their brother's bed). The whole thing falls apart. I still think it's a great story for children and if it leads to people reading more, it makes me happy but this blind worship by older fans who still think it's perfect (as in, writing wise. I won't judge if someone thinks it's still perfect entertaining wise) and JKR is the bestest author ever wore me out over time.
(But lbr a looooot of people have taken some really clever fandom headcanons and treat them as canon by now without noticing. I think if JKR ever wrote the Marauders book everyone wants to badly, there would be a ruse awakening)

[ketita]

(But lbr a looooot of people have taken some really clever fandom headcanons and treat them as canon by now without noticing. I think if JKR ever wrote the Marauders book everyone wants to badly, there would be a ruse awakening)

This is so true. It would never be as awesome as people have built it up in their minds, and so would just lead to disappointment.
It's kind of like how (okay, Attack on Titan's plot is actually less sensical than Harry Potter's, but roll with me here) they made the prequel about Levi's backstory (he's one of the most popular characters), and after hundreds of fics that told that story, the actual reality was incredibly underwhelming.
In that sense Rowling is smart in that she's branching the world of HP into other stuff that is linked, but not THAT closely linked, so there's less potential for massive letdowns.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe part of the problem is that we're coming at this as adults and expecting adult-level worldbuilding. These are, at their heart, kids' books, you guys. She's telling a story for children, not us.

Maybe we should just let her do it.

[ketita]

Plenty of children's fantasy authors manage to write children's fantasy books without lousy worldbuilding.

[(Anonymous)]

Many of them probably lose something in making their books so, however. It's clear that whatever It Quality makes a children's book special doesn't have anything to do with whether or not the world it inhabits makes sense.

[(Anonymous)]

But we don't slag to this extent on the ones who don't. It makes me think that people who grew up loving these books when they were kids are looking back with adult goggles on and going HEY WAIT I SHOULD STILL LOVE THEM EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT TWELVE ANYMORE instead of just enjoying them for what they are.

But then, I'm coming at it from the perspective of someone who was well into adulthood when they came out and has never read them in the first place.

[ketita]

Well, most children's books also don't make their authors multimillionaires. People talk about it because it's on their radar.
And this movie that she's making doesn't seem like it's a children's movie the way Philosopher's Stone was a children's book. So this is a high-profile author, creating a high-profile movie which is also aimed at adults, and you're surprised that people are reacting to her weak backstory?