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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-16 06:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #3360 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3360 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Niche]


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03.
[Rush Hour 1, 2, 3]


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04.
["The Bride Was A Boy" manga]


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05.
[J.K. Rowling]


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06.
[Pretty Little Liars]


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07.
[Twin Peaks]


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08.
[The Walking Dead/The Flash]


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09.
(GIRLS)


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10.
[The Grinder]


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11.
[Pokemon]


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12.
[Lord of the Rings]


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13.
[Babylon 5, Tolkien, Star Wars, Harry Potter]


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14.
[Star Wars: The Force Awakens]


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15.
[Pete Seeger]









Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 032 secrets from Secret Submission Post #480.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-03-17 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
It's still something that happens though, and it isn't unusual. Pushing for more variety shouldn't try to claim that it's damaging to show people who DO know, because they do exist.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-03-17 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
This. The feeling uncomfortable/like something is off doesn't necessarily have to be related to gender presentation or gender roles either. One of my good friends is a feminine-presenting trans guy who loves makeup and dressing up. He never felt uncomfortable or unhappy about wearing women's clothes or being perceived as feminine; what bothered him was the fact that he had a female body. He was mostly able to shrug it off until he hit puberty and developed breasts and then he developed some pretty significant dysphoria as a result.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-03-17 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like you're deliberately misreading. I said it's damaging to pretend that the only legitimate "real" trans people are the ones who have either vague or overt "something doesn't feel right" epiphanies early in childhood. A person shouldn't have had to try and cut off their penis or sew up their vagina at age 5 to be considered a legitimate trans person, but the dominant narrative pushed by cis people (and some trans people) is that it is the only way to be a legitimate trans person. If you didn't know straight from the womb you are somehow "lesser".

The fact that this is the dominant narrative that gets pushed isn't surprising though, since people are forever trying to find a way to make trans people more "palatable", and a "boohoo they've known ever since they were a fetus how can you hate someone for something they've obviously been all their entire lives it's like hating gay people for being gay" sob story is easier to swallow for bigots than someone who only started wrestling with gender issues as a young adult, or even making it through adulthood for a little while.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-03-17 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, talk about misreading. Nobody is saying that people knowing their whole lives is the only legitimate way to be trans. Literally nobody has said that in this entire thread and yet you're insisting that it's what people are getting out of it.

I'm agender. I used to be female. I understand how gender identity can change through life. And if anybody were to take my story as anything but what it is then I'd be insulted.

And this idea of making trans people palatable for bigots...what? Seriously? I mean come on, where do you get that from?