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Re: Romantic advice thread?
(Anonymous) 2016-03-19 01:51 am (UTC)(link)One question that I want to ask: how do you feel and think about romantic relationships with guys in the abstract? That is to say, how do you feel about them when you're just thinking about them in general, not when it's some specific guy you know who wants to take you out? What about sexual relationships with guys - how do you think and feel about them in the abstract? Not in terms of anyone pursuing you, just when you picture yourself being in that kind of relationship, what you would want out of it, what an ideal relationship of that kind would like look to you - that kind of thing.
You also say that you hate the courting - the idea of compliments, that kind of thing. Can you talk some more about that? Like, how specifically do you react when someone compliments you like that? That's really interesting.
It could be that you just aren't that interested in guys romantically, mostly just sexually, and more interested romantically in women. It could also be that, for whatever reason, you're just not comfortable with guys - and that also wouldn't be wrong. There's a lot of things that it could be. None of them add up to something being wrong with you.
Re: Romantic advice thread?
(Anonymous) 2016-03-19 02:00 am (UTC)(link)Romantic relationships with guys in the abstract is...fine, I suppose. I imagine someone I would be friends with, mostly. Travel with, share a life with, kids with. The general details are fine, specifically when they are related to how we can improve each other's lives. But the details are where it gets murky. I can't imagine being comfortable enough with a sexual partner to spend a ton of time with them. It might just be because I've never had sex with a man before and I've built it up in my mind to something more than it really is.
What I want most out of a relationship might be intersecting utility functions, which sounds soulless mostly.
When someone compliments me, I mostly want them to stop. It goes along a sliding scale. I like compliments on things I do, like my writing and my art, but nothing excessive since it makes me uncomfortable. I hate compliments about anything to do with my body or personality, ESPECIALLY if they come from men. With women, it's really not so bad, but there's only so much I can take. When the guy from my date tried to compliment my eyes, my automatic response (when I was seeing where it was going) was to make a joke and divert him away.
You might be right. I find the idea of having a sex with a man I don't know much less threatening than a relationship. Sometimes I think I would highly prefer actually settling down with a woman. But there's a lot of complicated family stuff going on there that I'd prefer not to think about.
Re: Romantic advice thread?
(Anonymous) 2016-03-19 02:24 am (UTC)(link)I don't think there's anything wrong with intersecting utility functions if that's what works for you. I also don't think there's anything wrong if that changes over time. This is all really hard and we're all just trying to figure out what works for us and all told it's probably a lot better to take the time and figure it out, rather than just fall into some socially obligated thing that doesn't work for you. If the answer is 'date women and fuck men', that's a completely fine answer.
Re: Romantic advice thread?
(Anonymous) 2016-03-19 04:50 am (UTC)(link)I'm not exactly offering advice here, but holy smokes, this entire thread is so me! I was actually considering posting my own little rant about romance and dating earlier but I chickened out. Then you posted.
You're not alone anon, not alone at all. I'm not sure if it's that all the guys who've been interested in me are guys I'm not attracted to. Or if it's the unequal aspects I dislike, or if the few guys I've dated so far have been sexist or immature. Or if it's just guys in general.
So I don't know if I'm bisexual and suck at relationships, or straight and suck at relationships, or gay and unaware.
Like you, I get so uncomfortable about compliments and flirting, and as soon as they show romantic interest I wish they'd just go away. A big part of it, for me, is that I don't want to be viewed sexually by them. I don't want to be a prize for them to obtain, a trophy with tits. (One dude once told me: "I think god gave me you," and I didn't find it romantic, it just made me nope the hell out of there.) I don't want them to like some idealized fantasy-girl version of me, as if I'm some kind of manic pixie dream girl who's gonna help them "find themselves." I want them to like me for me; as a person.
All I know is, I want a relationship where we're a team, best friends who help each other become the best we can be.
Re: Romantic advice thread?
(Anonymous) 2016-03-19 04:52 am (UTC)(link)Also with the compliments thing - is it because they feel disingenous?
Because that's the way it's always felt for me. Either a) the only thing you give a shit about is how "pretty" I am, and not about anything I think or feel, or b) you just want someone to fuck.
Re: Romantic advice thread?
(Anonymous) 2016-03-20 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)You know what DOES point to something be wrong, though? The fact that she's interested and attracted up until the point where the guy actually likes her. As long as he either views her as a sex object or a non-entity, she's fine. The second he views her as someone he wants to have a relationship with, she's disgusted.
That's unhealthy and points to something being wrong, and you saying, "oh no sweetie you're fine that's not dysfunctional at all" is really shitty.