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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-21 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #3365 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-03-21 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
My beef is that their feet in the movies look so artificial and they're also too big. There's nothing to suggest hobbit feet are bigger than average. They should be a normal size. I did think there wasn't enough hair on their feet, but then it felt like the movies did everything they could to "pretty up" the heroes in every way they could. Less hair on their feet, dwarves without beards, etc.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-03-21 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Dwarves without beards?

I'm not even a big Tolkien fan but that just sounds so...wrong

(Anonymous) 2016-03-21 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
That's basically what Kili is (which is sad because Aiden can grow a very nice beard). And Bofur only has a mustache. And Thorin's beard is actually rather short for a Longbeard. The "hot" dwarves have minimal facial hair. The dwarves who are not hot are given much more respectable beards.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-21 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
IDK, pretty much every dwarf in the movies had a beard except Kili who is canonically barely an adult.

But yeah there was a bit too much prettying up and making characters look overly normal. Not that I really blame them because they were making blockbuster movies and needed a large projected audience for the movies' financial model to be successful (there's a snowball effect of "if you want good SFX you need a high budget and in order to get a high budget you need to project making a lot of $ off of ticket sales and if you want to make a lot of $ off of ticket sales you need to spend x amount of $ on SFX and location and action etc etc) and creating accessible character designs was an easy way to increase that.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-21 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Thorin and his folk are from the Longbeards. They are described in The Hobbit as having beards long enough to tuck into their belts. While some of them do have beards, several would be bald by dwarf-standards (as set up in HoME).

I can agree that some changes need to be made but there's also a point where you have to honor the source material. While Thorin's beard isn't tucked in his belt, he's definitely got one. But he also doesn't look much like a dwarf. Most of them don't, especially in close-ups. This can take away from the story because the story is supposed to be about dwarves, not humans. There's a disconnect when you're told that you're supposed to be looking at dwarves, you've been given Gimli as your archetype, and yet the "hot" dwarves you see don't look very different from Aragorn or Eomer. It really feels like the filmmakers shied away from the fact their leading characters were dwarves.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-22 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
So what you're saying is that dwarves should look like ugly potatoes.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-22 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
No. They should look like dwarves.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-21 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought they would have bigger feet than a similar-sized human. Kind of like puppies have big feet. But not as grody as their fake feet in the movies.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-21 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Misconceptions#Hobbit_feet

(Anonymous) 2016-03-21 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
SA

Also, here's a drawing of Bilbo that Tolkien drew himself.

http://tolkiengateway.net/w/images/2/2f/J.R.R._Tolkien_-_Bilbo_Baggins.jpg

http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-UR544_bilbo_DV_20120921182240.jpg

His feet look normal to me in this.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-21 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
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I meant more that that's how I pictured them in my head rather than actual canon. I guess I was partially influenced by the movies. Thanks for the links, I haven't seen those pictures since I was a kid.