[ SECRET POST #3365 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3365 ⌋

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Comments

[diet_poison]

Agreed with anon who already replied that Draco in Leather Pants is more about woobifying than seeing nuance, but I also agree that people have a hard time seeing nuance in heroes too. I detest Ron-bashing and "Ron as a Death Eater" makes me mad.

In general people really like to see things in black and white. People who refuse to see any good in villains and people who totally woobifying them are committing the same error (unless the villain really is totally evil, or turns out to be not actually a villain, but you can also woobify heroes IMO by refusing to recognize their flaws, which is sort of the opposite of the Ron is a Death Eater thing...)

[philstar22]

I agree with this, but I also think that, especially with heroes, everyone has faults that bother them more than others. So it is possible to acknowledge that a character is actually a hero but at the same time thinking that a particular flaw of theirs is worse than canon may see it or others may interpret it.

And also, people get accused of woobifying just for showing positive traits that a villain might have and not saying "this person is evil" every other sentence.

[diet_poison]

Oh, well yeah, people are allowed to have favorites! There's a difference between saying "I don't like protagonist X because they do this and I'm not ok with it" and saying "protagonist X is actually evil and if you disagree you are objectively wrong and stupid".

I feel like tumblr fandom has a problem with nuance just in general.

[philstar22]

This I totally agree with. I used to hate the whole Ron the Deatheater thing back in the day even though I wasn't actually a huge fan of Ron and personally was really bothered by his obsession with fame and not recognizing that Harry's life kind of sucks and was really bothered by him choosing not to believe Harry in GOF. But that doesn't make him a deatheater. He's still a hero and a good friend and the bashing drove me nuts. I hate character bashing of even characters I don't like.

I just think that sometimes the terms are used for things that aren't actually bashing or woobifying and it bugs me because as a villain fan I'm often accused of woobifying when I talk about positive traits a villain may have.