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⌈ Secret Post #3365 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I thought it was refreshing to see Gryffindors act less honorably in book 6. But then I also really liked CAPSLOCK OF DOOM!Harry in book 5, so.

[philstar22]

It would have bothered me less if I didn't feel like the narrative was supporting them? Not every instance, but there were some instances like Hermione attacking Ron with birds or Ginny flying into the stands to attack Zachariah, where I felt like the narrative actually thought what they did was justified or even awesome.

I'm totally cool with heroes making mistakes, I just don't want to be told it isn't actually a mistake.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, the books are from Harry's POV, so I read it that *he* felt those moments were justified. And that felt human to me.

[philstar22]

Maybe that's just a weakness of writing from a limited POV then? I don't know. I feel there could have been ways for the narrative to get it across, and I feel like JKR actually was totally fine with those actions her characters took. It just didn't work for me personally. I tend to skip that book on rereads because I end up disliking everyone.

[(Anonymous)]

Ha! You call it the weakness of limited POV. I call it the pleasure of limited POV!

[philstar22]

That's totally fine. This is just a thing for me. I don't like feeling like we're supposed to think bad actions by characters are actually good. I've felt this way about other fandoms too. And I think other authors who use a limited POV have still managed to make it clear that the action is actually bad even if the POV character doesn't think so.

[(Anonymous)]

This is interesting. I don't share the sentiment, but I see where you're coming from. I feel like JKR did allow her own prejudices and pettiness filter through Harry at times. The reason I think it doesn't work for her as it would other authors is that Harry is supposed to be this almost Christlike hero figure, so any pettiness on his part feels magnified.

[(Anonymous)]

Then my best mate Asshat McClown stole the Golden MacGuffin from right under her nose! It was so awesome! (And also stealing is bad.)

Alternatively, we trust people to know what is good and bad behaviour, rather than spelling it out for them like children.

[(Anonymous)]

I generally don't agree with the assumption that an author necessarily agrees with or supports something that's viewed positively through a limited POV - I genuinely love unreliable narrators, so it's usually a feature for me, not a bug - but some of JKR's interviews do seem to back up the idea that she subscribes to some of her novels' protagonist-centered morality herself.

It definitely makes it a little uncomfortable to go back and re-read some parts of the books, particularly 6.