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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-21 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #3365 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3365 ⌋

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Re: suicide cw

[personal profile] mrs_don_draper 2016-03-22 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
Based on the your first 2 sentences, I call tell you're fucking asshole. Way to go.

Re: suicide cw

(Anonymous) 2016-03-22 07:47 am (UTC)(link)
Why, exactly? NAYRT, but I'm curious. I was diagnosed with depression in my early twenties, and have attempted suicide twice since, but I still agree with AYRT. Suicide is the worst outcome and it's what happens when the disease wins.

Re: suicide cw

[personal profile] mrs_don_draper 2016-03-22 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
"Suicide is a bad answer, Nonny. It's a cheat and it steals all of the possibilities of life from its victims."

I'm just so tired of victim blaming. It's not a bad answer nor is it a cheat. For some people, it feels like the only answer, and I don't think killing yourself is cowardly or taking the easy way out. I think that whether you chose to live or to die is difficult and neither way is "right" or "wrong." Suicide might "steal life," but people who want to die already live in situations like that. If someone wants to die, it's because they see their "possibility of life" as already been taken from them.

I've been suicidal more times that I can count and have been hospitalized a few times. In those bleak moments, I often felt more disappointed with myself for not ending it than living. And even though I feel differently today, I still think that those feelings are valid and important and should be treated with respect. I'm just so tired of victims being guilted into living or guilted for feeling a certain way or thinking a certain way. I think most people, especially those without mental illness are very selfish and narrow minded when it comes to giving "advice" to mentally ill people.

Re: suicide cw

(Anonymous) 2016-03-22 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey I'm the OP and I really appreciate your honesty in this response. "being guilted into living" is how I feel about a lot of responses to suicide, and it is supremely unhelpful to me. Like. It doesn't help me, but everyone acts like "you would hurt so many people by dying" is supposed to make me feel better? It just makes me feel worse.

Re: suicide cw

[personal profile] mrs_don_draper 2016-03-23 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
I'm really sorry people are making you feel that way. It's such a crappy thing for people to do on top of everything else. I think the important thing is that you get help and get better because *you* want to. I know it is difficult, but it's something I've been working on for the past five years, so if you want/need advice about getting help, you can always ask me. I won't tell you what to do, but I do hope that you soon feel better and that you stay safe and get the help you deserve. <3

Re: suicide cw

(Anonymous) 2016-03-23 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm the AYRT. I apologize for the idea that I was victim blaming or shaming with my comments on suicide. That was certainly not my intention and I didn't think that it was intimated by my remarks. I am very sorry if my comments offended you. I don't see what you found so offensive in my comments or why you decided I was an asshole by the tack I chose.

I also have mental illness. I was not trying to be selfish or narrow-minded in my response to the OP. I do believe that depression lies. It says there is no hope, no possibility of change, no future for the one who suffer from it. I earnestly believe that time proves the lie. So far, decades of experience has confirmed my beliefs but ymmv.