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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-24 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #3368 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-03-24 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
*eye roll*

(Anonymous) 2016-03-24 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
You're kidding, right?

(Anonymous) 2016-03-24 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
The idiocy is strong with this one.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-24 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
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feotakahari: (Default)

I'm a bit surprised at all the negative responses

[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-03-24 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
The picture is of an American show set in New York City, where the police have a terrible reputation. I'd expect more negative responses if this was a British show or something.

Re: I'm a bit surprised at all the negative responses

(Anonymous) 2016-03-24 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Because cop shows being realistic has not been a thing ever?
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Re: I'm a bit surprised at all the negative responses

[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-03-24 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not like these shows are about aliens from a faraway galaxy. (Well, maybe Buzz Lightyear of Star Command.) If you use the name of a real city and a real organization, it's to be expected that people will bring in their real feelings about that city and that organization.

Re: I'm a bit surprised at all the negative responses

(Anonymous) 2016-03-24 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh please. If the show was meant to be realistic in any way shape or form it might be a realistic criticism, but it's Castle for heaven's sake, not NYPD Blue. It's not even Law & Order. It's only a step above Brooklyn Nine-Nine, which people tend to love because of the wide variety of characters, never mind the fact that that's even less of a realistic representation of the actual NYPD.
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Re: I'm a bit surprised at all the negative responses

[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-03-25 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
I can see arguing that for a show about Vikings or something. After all, no one's around today whose village got pillaged. But the New York police department currently exists and is still showing up in the news. I don't have any personal grudge against any police department, but it's only to be expected that some people do.

Re: I'm a bit surprised at all the negative responses

(Anonymous) 2016-03-25 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
So they don't have to watch it?

Though I think what OP is forgetting probably 75% or more of the incidents that we're hearing about nowadays involve uniformed officers, not detectives, and certainly not homicide detectives. So the same way that OP is able to separate FBI from local police, they should be able to recognize that uniformed and non-uniformed police are also separate groups.

And I'm not a police shill. My own experiences with the NYPD have been less than stellar. I just don't associate TV police with my own experience with the police.

Re: I'm a bit surprised at all the negative responses

(Anonymous) 2016-03-25 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
British shows shouldn't get off the hook either.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-24 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
If you don't want to watch cop shows, don't watch cop shows.

But if you are watching cop shows regularly, and you know and like the characters, then I'm not sure what you're getting at. You used a Castle pic, so are you saying that you still can't see them as the good guys, regardless of the narrative, just because they're cops (and because some other cops in the real world aren't good)?

(Anonymous) 2016-03-25 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Try watching shows that take the opposite tack, then. Sons of Anarchy or The Sopranos or something like that.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-25 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
I can understand that. I'm guessing you can enjoy Castle because he's not armed? (Or maybe he is by now, I haven't kept up with the show.)

I'm more done because of the excessive bloody autopsies and repetitive plots, but I can understand how real world things would affect your views. Especially since a lot of cop shows seems to give the cops unlimited power and a very "us v them" outlook towards ALL baddies with little nuance.
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[personal profile] ayebydan 2016-03-25 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
I just can't deal anymore bc I know the lead actors hate each other.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-25 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Really? Wow, that makes me sad

(Anonymous) 2016-03-25 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Ahahahaha someone's never dealt with the feds.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-25 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
You're missing out. The Olivia Benson Rape time Happy Hour is enthralling television.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-25 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
same

I try to keep it separate from fiction but there are a lot of cop show cases that deliberately toe the line and it's cringey to watch
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[personal profile] iggy 2016-03-25 08:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'm generally okay with procedurals, but there HAVE been a couple of shows that toe the line for me to the point of discomfort. I remember watching this episode of Grimm, and the cop just... walked in the room and killed a guy. He wasn't even a villain, he was under the control of something (if I recall?), and he just offed him without remotely trying to restrain him. And that was just too much. This guy is the hero? Yeah, okay.

There was a show that aired last year but got canceled pretty quickly about a cop in a wheelchair (I can't recall the title), that gave me the same level of discomfort. But otherwise, yeah procedurals are usually so silly that I can keep a distance from reality when watching them.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-25 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
There was a show that aired last year but got canceled pretty quickly about a cop in a wheelchair (I can't recall the title),

I believe the show you may be thinking about is Ironside [the remake - the original with Raymond Burr lasted longer]
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[personal profile] sabotabby 2016-03-25 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I have the same reaction, though more extreme with American cop shows. Most of my encounters with cops has been them beating and arresting my friends or being useless in the face of sexual assault or harassing indigenous people on the street, and reconciling that with heroic cop archetypes is an issue for me.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-25 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
You're seeing the world monochromaticaly,anon. I am all for calling out chips when they misbehave. It isn't done remotely enough. I don't like putting them on a pedestal because too many of them enjoy it and milk it. But, having known many cops, and having had good encounters with American cops as a black man, I won't lump even most of them in the shit category.

The police chief of NYC, of all people, told Donald Dump to STFU in response to Dump's call for police to patrol Muslim neighborhoods. Same guy who got all scared over #BlackLivesMatter. Cops are complex people, both as a group and as individuals.