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Favorites? Thoughts on the genre. How would your dystopian future look like? Logistics?

Thread for anything dystopian.

Idiocracy is my favorite.

I'm re-reading 1984 right now. I'd forgotten how almost unbearably grimdark it is. But it's still my fave.

2 thoughts:
1) I am still not over how much I love Dredd, and I would like to know more about how that world works.

2) I am really interested in dystopian fiction written in the lead-up to WW2. I feel like a lot of it reflected more specifically on current issues. Like, the what-if about Hitler actually achieving his 1000 year reign. Or the one where there is no individuality. Or the one where women ruled everything.

I'm not a huge fan of dystopian fiction in general so it's possible I'm missing it, but it seems to me that most dystopian worlds written/produced now are more focused on how grim/dark and terrible the world is - it's a vehicle for conflict - where the older stuff didn't make realistic worlds (or even characters) in any sense but they were clearly commenting on social culture in interesting ways.

But I wonder if some of the appeal is that it's historical now. I don't know if it would be as interesting to read this kind of fiction dealing with RIGHT NOW because we don't know how it will turn out. The Iron Heel is interesting because you can see what he got right and wrong. Reading it at the time, it might've hit too close to home or seemed too kooky. But I think I'd still like to read something that looked at cultural issues like individuality since that is pretty universal.

There's elements of what you're describing in various post-war sci-fi works. The Man In The High Castle is an obvious one (what if Germany and Japan won WW2?) but a more subtle take -- and like High Castle, also from Philip K. Dick -- would be A Scanner Darkly, especially the movie. The world of ASD is very much like ours (the movie describes it as "seven years from now") but with an increased surveillance apparatus as the government desperately tries to find the source of a destructive new drug called Substance D. Very little focus is placed on this surveillance state; it's more about identity, and the protagonist's dual role as stoner and undercover policeman. If there was ever a stronger indictment of both drug culture and the war on drugs at the same time, I've yet to see it.

Favorite Books: After (it is just so plausible feeling), The Giver, Pretties Trilogy, Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World, World War Z (if it counts), Shade's Children.

Favorite Movies: The Road, 28 Days Later, Gattaca, Mad Max: Fury Road, Wall-E, Children of Men.

I love reading about dystopian worlds. Though, I can only deal with like...one book or movie every couple of months.

Edited 2016-03-26 20:55 (UTC)

I really wanted to like Children of Men. I love Cuarón, love Clive Owen, but man. Some of the action scenes felt so endless and pointless that I almost went to sleep.

I've not seen the movie version of The Road. I have the book though. If you can get around Cormac McCarthy's writing style it's super grim!

Yeah, I tried reading it and did not like the writing style. I actually have the audiobook now and plan on listening to that. I figure it will be a bit easier to digest. Also, the movie is really good and worth a watch.

It was okay.

I love the YA series Partials by Dan Wells. Someone here recommended it and now I continue to spread it because it was really good.

I read so many dystopian series that I can't keep track of all of them. I like Idiocracy and love that Comedy Central was playing it all the time for a while.

Deus Ex - "It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here."

Blade Runner - "Do you like our owl?" "It's artificial?" "Of course."

Very much prefer understated cyberpunk compared to, for example, Shadowrun.

Or the wonderful book behind "Blade Runner": "Do androids dream of electric sheep?" by Philip K. Dick. He has other stuff worth checking out too.

Or how about a classic: "The Trial" by Franz Kafka. It's not a pleasant read, but a life changing one.

As a PKD fan I'm familiar with Androids -- see my other comment in this thread :)

I've not read "The Trial" but Orson Welles' film adaptation of it is brutal.

I'm sure the film adaptation mush have made an impression (not putting Orson down here), but there might be a point in painting Kafka's universe in your own colors/with your personal references. Ransacking general and personal means and motivations are sort of a big deal in it.

*must* dammitt

I'm gonna sound a bit childish here, but I love a lot of single-episode 'bad future' dystopias. JLA Rock of Ages and the TMNT 2003 episode "Same As It Never Was", that type of thing. Something short and tragic, suggestive of mass-scale horror, witnessed by beloved characters and giving a sense of 'there but for the grace of god'.

How about some harrowing fanfiction? Take a look at the very dark Star Trek Mirrorverse: "the icarus verse" by primavera. I cried.

http://archiveofourown.org/series/38436

Always and forever, Children of Men (the movie)

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