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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-04-02 03:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #3377 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3377 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 063 secrets from Secret Submission Post #483.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-02 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting. I would assume they were mocking me.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-02 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Same Lol

(Anonymous) 2016-04-03 07:24 am (UTC)(link)
In a supremely lazy way.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-02 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh wow cringe. I usually expect better from you. This is just like 13 year old boy, "I just discovered 4chan" levels of tryhard though.

(In b4 "tl;dr" again.)
dahli: winnar @ lj (oppai)

[personal profile] dahli 2016-04-02 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I was joking, anon. Maybe I should have edited to clarify.

But if you want my honest opinion, I hate that too because it comes as really dismissive behavior. On the other hand, even if I do read them, secrets with 4/5 paragraphs of text set with letter size 8 can be really long and tiring.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-03 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, see this is the dahli this anon knows and respects. :) I apologize, I didn't realize it was a joke. I think it just hit too close to home because the moment I read that secret I was like "I'm going to scroll down and some ass is going to comment 'tl;dr' just to be contrary". When I saw it was you who did it, I was surprised, because I usually very much enjoy your comments and you seem like the type of person who would have...well, very much the opinion about this that you do have! I can understand that long secrets can be hard to read, because of time, text size problems, etc. I just think the good thing to do in that case is to skip over them. :)
dahli: winnar @ lj (Default)

[personal profile] dahli 2016-04-03 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
Aww dang, anon you're making me blush. And no worries, I apologize too and next time I'll try to be more clear with my jokes! I guess sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internet. :P And dang, thank you for enjoying my comments, anon! I never thought someone would read the nonsense I write. /o\

Also ngl I do enjoy reading long stuff or even fandom essays (and it's one of the things I miss from lj) but I think for secrets using less paragraphs and a bigger font size makes it easier to read. If people want to tl;dr in comments I'll probably end up reading them even if I don't always comment.
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[personal profile] dancingmouse 2016-04-02 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I automatically assume they're either being lazy and want everything spoon-fed to them, or have nothing to say and just want to be a douchbag.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-02 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
This is exactly what I think this secret seems to be getting at. People come to a community where the main point of the idea is to read stuff, and then have conversations about said stuff, and yet they get pissed off when someone...what, gives them more to read? Oh no. How tragic. I think it's ridiculous too, because it's not like you can submit a novel. The secret size limit combined with the text needing to be big enough to be legible means we have a pretty natural cutoff point for things.

If any of you reading this don't like long secrets? SKIP. OVER. THEM. Don't read them, and don't read the resulting secret thread. Problem solved, and no teal deers were hurt.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-02 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
This secret was too long so I didn't read it.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-02 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't write tl;dr essays then.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-02 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
There are indeed some readers who are far too impatient with lots of text, but there are also secret makers who should write more concise secrets because their text doesn't need to be as long as it is to get their point across.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-02 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I like long secrets. It's not secret that we have a ton of fanfiction writers and a few(?) published authors on this community, and I'd be extremely surprised if our resident long secret writers aren't writers of some sort. I guess I'm reminded of a friend I have, who is also an author, and her style of storytelling is much the same as these long secrets. I enjoy the long secrets because I feel like there's a lot of passion behind the subject matter, and they obviously want to get the nuances of the situation across. I guess they could get rid of those nuances, but I for one would be sad. I like reading them! :)

(Anonymous) 2016-04-03 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
I don't mind long secrets so long as they've got substance and the secrets are designed so that the text is legible and not in ant-sized font. But most of the time when I see a long secret, it's a secret that could've been expressed more succinctly without losing anything. I'm not a fan of wordy secrets just for the sake of wordcount.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-03 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
i don't usually use tl;dr because i didn't actually read it, but because i did and it went on forever about useless information and the whole point got so lost there's nothing to really respond with.

I feel you OP

(Anonymous) 2016-04-03 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
So far I've only seen people giving you shit OP or telling you that you can have other hobbies at the same time - but that's not the point of this secret is it? It's about how even if there are other things, nothing is quite as big or meaningful to you as fandom and you wish it were. I fucking feel you. You've probably tried other things, haven't you? You've looked and tried and nothing else feels as good. Nothing else is as fun. You love it but you don't like the way the outsiders look at you when they talk to you at work or at social functions. Fandom is, in a way, subversive and people who arent involved don't really understand it. The problem is the majority of the world is not involved. And it sucks. I feel you, OP. I do.

Re: I feel you OP

(Anonymous) 2016-04-03 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
I take it this is a misfire of #6?

Perhaps you're right and the secret is really about not finding meaningful non-fandom hobbies, but the secret says nothing about meaning or importance, so you can hardly blame anyone for failing to discern what OP hasn't actually stated.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-03 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
It's slightly nicer than ysitlabaysfb.

(Your secret is too long and boring and you should feel bad)

(Anonymous) 2016-04-03 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
I assume they found the secret overly verbose.

Which is true of a lot of secrets. You don't need to use 100 words when 10 would get the point across. Particularly when those 100 words manage to obfuscate your point rather than clarify it.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-04 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Particularly when those 100 words manage to obfuscate your point rather than clarify it.

Yes, exactly. When someone puts up an unreasonably long post and it's just a disorganized repetitive stream-of-consciousness farrago, tl;dr is absolutely appropriate.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-03 12:32 pm (UTC)(link)
use yours as project's thesis..... hehehe.