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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-04-03 04:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #3378 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3378 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-04-03 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel you, OP. The female characters other than Furiosa lacked any real agency--they were basically 'sexy lamps'. I honestly had to look the wive's names up online to find out they were more than just, you know, rainbow harem.

The story is Furiosa's arc, and she at least has agency, but, of course, she needs the help of a man to do anything, which may cut into your Strong Female Character appreciation (which isn't a big deal to me, but it does point out how rarely we see a male action hero NEEEEEED a female character to get anything done).

Basically, there was too much hype in your head when you saw it. I loved it, but I don't expect people who have been in Michael Bay films or are famous because their dad is a rock star to be, you know, able to act with any nuance or skill.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-03 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
My fault for reading a lot of good coverage / online analysis of some of the points from the movie before seeing it - I was unspoiled on the plot but not so much on the themes. In retrospect it seems more like people were discussing all the stuff using the movie as a jumping point or projecting their own ideas onto it for those articles rather than taking the stuff from the movie itself, which... didn't have all that, or at least not to the extent I'd thought it would.

Agree with you on the female characters though. I also looked them up and was legitimately surprised they had names and were supposed to have characters, because I really did not get that at all. Everyone who did have a character was also awkwardly one note - Max was Brooding Antihero, Furiosa was Typical Videogame Hero, there was the sympathetic guy and the eye candy and the obvious villain and the supporting crew and while its sure nice to have women in those roles, it didn't make the roles and more interesting.

I read stuff about Max being a good ally and all, but on watching it came. off more like this awkward struggle between the want to show Max off as tragic but noble and not really knowing how to do that besides having him save the day for the girls and Furiosa every now and then. Felt a bit off to me.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-04 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
I thought the wives were all quite different and had at least somewhat different motivations. Angarad is heavilly pregnant and the clock is ticking and whatever happens when the pregnancy ends, it won't be good. Toast wants to be someone more like Furiosa - valued for skills or knowledge (look at thge look she gives Angarad when the latter can't do anyrhing with the rifle) - and she can't achieve that as a concubine. Cheedo doesn't want to leave at all, initially, but eventually finds strength. Capable and the Dag are a bit harder to pin down for motivation beyond the obvious "get out of sex slavery" but they are very distinct characters, and not just because of hair color.