[ SECRET POST #3382 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3382 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

09. http://oi65.tinypic.com/2iic2fc.jpg

[kaijinscendre]

The same reason Earth is not not over-populated by animals that go into heat. A lot of things can happen pregnancy doesn't occur, there might be a miscarriage, childhood death, etc.

Or, birth control. There is no reason to think people in an A/B/O verse would not have access to it.

[diet_poison]

One major difference - Earth is also not overpopulated by animals that go into heat because lots of them die.

Not just a few as implied by "childhood death", but lots.

Of course, it used to be that way for humans too.

[kaijinscendre]

I think the use of birth control would balance it out.

Hell, I think that humans as is would populate the world more than humans that go into heat.

We can have sex and get pregnant any day of the week. An ABO human would only be able to get pregnant while in heat AND it is isn't guaranteed.

[diet_poison]

That's a good point about birth control - though I'd have to wonder how it would interact with any kind of estrus cycle (or whatever the human equivalent is) since it's all really hormone-driven.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I imagine a lot could go wrong with a butt baby.

[kaijinscendre]

Honestly, most mpreg fic I have seen either glosses over the birth or gives the character some kind of opening other than their butt. Like intersex or something.

[(Anonymous)]

OP, this fanart is really pretty. Would you mind linking the original?

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP but here: https://twitter.com/leokumifucker/status/713525793360625669

[kallanda_lee]

See, a/b/o has some things I like. The heat, the knotting. But the Mpreg and self-lubricating asses makes it a no-no for me.

[(Anonymous)]

Same. I only read A/B/O if it's het, which most of it isn't.

[(Anonymous)]

DA. Slightly off-topic question, but are women biologically affected in a/b/o fic? I've mostly only seen the trope in slash fandoms, where male omegas are biologically tweaked to allow mpreg, and I'm kind of curious about women in a/b/o universes. Like, can you have an alpha woman and an omega man? Do alpha women get retractable penises? Or is it purely a pheromone thing or a social construct with hormonal backing or what?

[a_potato]

I'm not sure if it's at all typical, but I once read an Avengers fic where Black Widow was an Alpha, and yes, she had a retractable penis.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

I know of one series that had alpha females with retractable penises - or more accurately, internally stored penises unless aroused. It became a plot point in one of the latter fics about how one could identify a child's caste before puberty.

I also read a fic once that had female alphas, but they were defined more as having an aggressive drive, but in practical terms partnered up with a male alpha.

But their are some fics that simply shunt women off as betas or omegas as the fic is mainly centered around a certain male/male pairing.

[(Anonymous)]

From what I've seen, yes, alpha women are a usually a thing that exists in A/B/O fics, though they are very rarely the focus of the fic. Omegaverse is very solidly a slashy phenomenon, no doubt about that. :)

In most of the fics I've read, alpha women are hermaphroditic. I've read fics where they have retractable penises, but more commonly they just have the usual kind of penis (except larger than average, and with a knot). Alpha women usually also have vaginas, but any reproductive parts (uterus, tubes, etc) are vestigial. By contrast, it's far less common for omega men to be hermaphroditic. Sometimes they have vaginas, but more commonly they simply have an anal entrance to a cervix-like passage.

[(Anonymous)]

I spend too much time thinking about these things. I suppose if Alphas and Omegas aren't actually more fertile than IRL humans, or don't have multiples, or represent only a small segment of the population, or they can magically control conceotion, or there is birth control to offset lower child mortality rates.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

I like A/B/O fics that have some sort of control established in the set-up. drugs/potions that can suppress the heat cycle, r contraceptives to prevent pregnancy.

But honestly the whole point of A/B/O is a set-up that involves male pregnancy so you inevitably have a situation where the main alpha/omega pair of the fic will end up with a pregnancy, so whatever method is mentioned in the fic will have a failure occur, so the pair ends up forced into what is basically a sex pollen situation and the omega ends up pregnant.

[(Anonymous)]

the whole point of A/B/O is a set-up that involves male pregnancy so you inevitably have a situation where the main alpha/omega pair of the fic will end up with a pregnancy, so whatever method is mentioned in the fic will have a failure occur

This is true, but it seems like it also depends on which fandom you're in that determines the extent to which mpreg is the forgone conclusion of A/B/O fics. In the Sherlock fandom, for example, I'd say I've read a good sixty or seventy A/B/O fics, and over half of them have not involved mpreg (which pleases me, as I'm in it for the heats and knotting and self-lubing arses, NOT for the mpreg). But I've tried searching A/B/O in a couple of other fandoms and had a hard time finding fics that didn't involve mpreg as a central element, so. *shrugs*

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

I haven't read much Sherlock A/B/O - maybe two fics in total - but it does strike me as a stand-out fandom on the mpreg front. Sherlock is not a character that seems very suited to children and despite a lot of other mischaracterisation that might occur in fic, a lot of people at least grasp that bit.

[blitzwing]

Some fics deal with this by having omegas (the baby havers) be a very small portion of the population. Sometimes alphas are uncommon too. If the majority of the population is betas, and they're infertile/sterile, you're not gonna have a giant overpopulation problem. Like if you have 8 kids but only a two of *them* will be able to have kids, you know what I'm saying?

But different fics deal with it in different ways. You can certainly like A/B/O and have this concern--thinking up workarounds for such problems is half the fun of ABO.

[(Anonymous)]

1. Birth control. It's used a lot in A/B/O fics.

2. In most of the A/B/O fics I've read Omegas have comprised a fairly small percentage of the population. 10% seems to be a fairly common percentage, though it can definitely vary widely from fic to fic. So even if omegas do have, statistically, more children than female betas do, they're not going to produce overwhelming numbers of offspring, any more than, say, religious people who don't use birth control produce overwhelming numbers of offspring. (Which is to say, the procreation rate of omegas and their mates probably actually would contribute to overpopulation, but not in the immediately and obviously catastrophic way that this secret seems to be implying.)

3. Some fics write betas as being significantly less fertile than regular, real world humans are. In that scenario, omegas are actually needed to keep population numbers from plummeting.