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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-04-20 06:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #3395 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3395 ⌋

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kallanda_lee: (Default)

Re: Writing questions!

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-04-20 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
To those of you who like Natasha Romanoff: how do you like her written? What are your headcanons? i find it so hard to get het voice right.
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Re: Writing questions!

[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-04-20 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
AHHH I love writing Natasha but in part bc I find it hard to do so? I try to find moments that seem to destabilize her a bit/knock her Calm, Cool, and Collected mask to the side a bit, and think about why that might be.

I also headcanon that, in the MCU at least, Russian/Soviet/Cold War history played out differently, or else Natasha would have been, to go by Cap 2's timeline, a seven year old KGB agent. Among many other snarls.
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Re: Writing questions!

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-04-20 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I find it hard for the same reasons! (and I do need to drop her cool).

I'm still slightly holding out for her being older than she appears, even in MCU.
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Re: Writing questions!

[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-04-20 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean...to be totally reasonable, she'd have to be at least, lets say, 17-20 to be an assassin with enough of a rap sheet to merit a) her reputation and b) sending Clint to take her out. So even if she did her work for the KGB in the last year of its existence alone, that makes her at the YOUNGEST 17 in 1991--and that's a very, very young estimate, which puts her birthday around 1974, and makes her 36 years old by the time of Iron Man 2, and *41* by Age of Ultron. Putting aside that Scarlett Johansen is only 31, this doesn't quite make sense in universe either (not to invoke that awful Bruce/Nat baby-making talk, but it would be weird for a woman already in her forties to be stressing about not being able to become pregnant in a new relationship, seeing as her window for safe baby-making is already closed or at least well on its way to getting that way). Even if her aging is slowed down like in the comics, it's still a little weird.

For awhile I reconciled her youth and the fall of the Soviet Union by saying the movies are set maybe ten years earlier (so, IM1 is ~1998, Avengers is ~2002, etc.), and that the MCU is just more technologically advanced than our universe (which absolutely makes sense!), but that leaves Nat still too young if she was born in 1984 and raises a lot of questions in and of itself.

TL;DR: they just didn't care, but I'm obsessed w Cold War history and Hurt.
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Re: Writing questions!

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-04-20 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder how the cold War thing will play out with Bucky, too. He DOES still have that Soviet star, even though his handlers were shows to be Hydra in WS.

On one hand I do feel Cold War stuff gets overused in American media, but for both Bucky and Natasha - we could do with a bit of context and backstory.
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Re: Writing questions!

[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-04-20 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
And he's speaking Russian in his first speaking scene!

My headcanon for Bucky, who is at least contemporaneous with the Soviet Union, is that he passed back and forth from Hydra and the USSR/there was a Hydra presence in the USSR/Hydra encourage the myth that he was Soviet to deflect suspicion.

I agree the Cold War is done to death and a half, but like you said it's pretty necessary for Bucky and Nat.
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Re: Writing questions!

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-04-20 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
He does! (Sebastian Stan's cute when he tries to speak Russian).

I just like backstories in general! Not sure if you watched Agent Carter, but I'm wondering if Hydra is somehow linked to Leviathan.

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Re: Writing questions!

[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-04-20 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I was wondering the same--though given that Hydra is (supposedly?) already "inside" Shield, maybe not.
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Re: Writing questions!

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-04-20 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I really am curious about the timeline, and hope we find out more about it!
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Re: Writing questions!

[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-04-20 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
TBH I doubt we will, but I have not given up hope :P
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Re: Writing questions!

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-04-20 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
tbh I'd watch the shit out of either of their backstories - but which I mean entire trilogies.
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Re: Writing questions!

[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-04-20 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Hnnng



By which I mean a resounding SAME
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Re: Writing questions!

[personal profile] tabaqui 2016-04-21 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
I *do not like* her being an uptight fem-nazi (like, getting all over Steve's ass because he opened a door for her) or when everyone is 'terrified' of her, like she's some omnipotent goddess. It's silly. She admits she only fronts about knowing everything *and* she's a total nerd (so eager to tell Steve about the War Games movie!)

So - super-competent spy and assassin, yes, with a dark past, yes, but she's nerdy and flirty and into pop culture. That's...uh...what i like to read when I read about her. :)