[ SECRET POST #3396 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3396 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

"In order to survive as a feminist one has to assure everyone that equality for women won’t take power away from men. It will, and it should."
- Emilie Autumn

Damn. I used to respect her so much. This is such a disappointment.

[(Anonymous)]

What do you think is the right way to say that? Genuinely curious. Starting nothing.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

"take the power imbalance away from men"? I hope it means that anyway.

How it's stated in the quote sounds like crab bucket mentality where one side has to tear the other down to their level so everyone has less.

[(Anonymous)]

Well given that she thinks that men and women are literally at war that can only be resolved through violence this isn't a thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Really? She knows men would win right? They make up the majority of military and on average are stronger.

[(Anonymous)]

You tried.

[(Anonymous)]

What is false about that statement?

If it was a war between the sexes, guess who has most of the firepower? men.

If it is a bunch of men and women brawling on the street, men will most likely be physically stronger and larger.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, but men have been socialized to not be explicitly openly violent to women. If we started killing them the majority wouldn't even know how to defend themselves, and the few that would and could would have to face off against the rest of the men who would fight them with us.

[(Anonymous)]

hahaha. You are awesome. You actually think that soldiers are not trained to ignore those stupid urges? That soldiers around the world don't kill women, children, and everything in between.

You are adorably naive if you think a group under attack won't fight and kill. Or that many (most) women will also help defend men being attacked by a group of psychopaths.

Also, you sound a bit like Hitler. You going to lead them into gas chambers, fraulein?

[(Anonymous)]

I doubt she is thinking about women staging some uprising that the military will be called in to deal with.

I think a better way would be to use sneakier types of violence, rather than open brute force, and to do so in a ways that seem to not be connected (so people don't see an actual movement, just a bunch of unrelated incidents).

[(Anonymous)]

Uh huh. Going to smother baby boys in their cribs?

Hey, maybe Susan Smith, Christina Miracle, and Susan Eubanks are starting it!

[(Anonymous)]

"Adorably," really? When will that one go away. No one thinks you consider the person you're arguing with "adorable."

This constant sarcastic use of the word is ruining it for me even when it's used in its proper context. Even as an actual compliment, it sounds belittling now.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, it's basically a question of whether or not power is a zero-sum game.

If power in a society is zero-sum, she's not at all wrong. And while I don't think it is zero sum, it certainly seems to be most peoples' intuitive understanding.

[(Anonymous)]

Have you ever listened to her music? Like, this isn't surprising at all if you know like, any of her music. Come on, try harder.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't see what's wrong with that. Any time one group has power over another things inevitably end up unequal.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, if she means men as a group have to lose power over women as a group, I don't see the problem. If one group is more powerful than another group, and then they become equally powerful, that means the formerly more powerful group has less power over the other group than it did before.

At least, that's how I'd interpret the quote. I don't really know anything about Emilie Autumn.

[diet_poison]

I mean. Fixing a power imbalance does that out of necessity. Though I suppose she could have been going for something else in context. I'm not familiar with her

[(Anonymous)]

that's literally the way that power imbalances are fixed

I mean if there are 100 men at the top and 0 women, in order to let's say get an egalitarian 50/50 that means 50 of those men will be "torn down," so yes men will "suffer" having to be treated as anyone else