case: (Default)
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-04-21 05:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #3396 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3396 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.



__________________________________________________



02.


__________________________________________________



03.


__________________________________________________



04.


__________________________________________________



05.


__________________________________________________



06.


__________________________________________________



07.


__________________________________________________



08.
[Robert DeNiro]


__________________________________________________



09.


__________________________________________________



10.


__________________________________________________



11.


__________________________________________________



12.













Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 015 secrets from Secret Submission Post #485.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: "Hard work isn't real! Everyone with money was privileged from the start!"

(Anonymous) 2016-04-22 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
It's not a guarentee of sucess, but it is an increase in probability of making it if you try rather than doing nothing at all.

Re: "Hard work isn't real! Everyone with money was privileged from the start!"

(Anonymous) 2016-04-22 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
+1

Re: "Hard work isn't real! Everyone with money was privileged from the start!"

(Anonymous) 2016-04-22 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
It is not true that people who are poor are poor because they are lazy or because they are not hardworking.

However, that's what the narrative is used to imply. Including by you, right now.

Re: "Hard work isn't real! Everyone with money was privileged from the start!"

(Anonymous) 2016-04-22 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
DA

AYRT specifically said that there is no "guarantee of success" (i.e. even hard-working poor people can remain poor). So they weren't implying that at poor people are lazy at all.

Re: "Hard work isn't real! Everyone with money was privileged from the start!"

(Anonymous) 2016-04-22 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, I'm definitely reading into it, but it seems like they're very, very insistent on the importance of never letting anyone forget that hard work can help you succeed.

Re: "Hard work isn't real! Everyone with money was privileged from the start!"

(Anonymous) 2016-04-22 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT - Well, yes and no. I think it can, yes, and I don't like that being undermined. That does NOT mean that I don't think poor people work hard, or that all rich people do, for that matter.
diet_poison: (Default)

Re: "Hard work isn't real! Everyone with money was privileged from the start!"

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-04-25 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
The problem with that though is the assumption that what I said somehow contradicts with the notion that hard work increases your chances of success - like they thought it needed to be said in context of my comment. I don't know why else they would do it unless they thought that what I said - "hard work is not a guarantee of success" - somehow also implied "hard work means you can't ever be successful and therefore there is no point in working hard if you are poor". Which is how a lot of people think poor people think.

Re: "Hard work isn't real! Everyone with money was privileged from the start!"

(Anonymous) 2016-04-22 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Your reading comprehension needs work.
diet_poison: (Default)

Re: "Hard work isn't real! Everyone with money was privileged from the start!"

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-04-25 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Yes and?

like did I say something to imply that poor people are lazy and don't work to try to better their financial situations? Because that's usually not the case. Shoehorning that in here, however, is part of the problem. You're advancing the narrative that hard work = guaranteed success which goes hand-in-hand with the narrative that poor people are poor because they're lazy and frankly it's a terrible cultural attitude.