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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-04-24 03:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #3399 ]


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kallanda_lee: (Default)

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-04-24 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Isn't it based on Le Sacre du Printemps, or am I mistaken? If so, it was historically literally the most controversial thing put on stage at that time. We're used to that, of course, but that's the cultural baggage of it.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-24 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
No (I think that was an orchestral piece?), but it was based on a very controversial late 19th century German play, so same point!
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-04-24 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
That was a ballet, actually. (but indeed same point)

(Anonymous) 2016-04-24 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Wrong source material, similar era. Both involve fairly young girls killing themselves, though!
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[personal profile] toshi_hakari 2016-04-25 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
Wendla isn't committing suicide in "Spring Awakening". She dies from a botched abortion.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-24 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree, but try to hunt down a video of Deaf West's revival. The whole premise of lack of communication leading to tragedy works on a whole other level when there are characters literally speaking different languages.

OP here

(Anonymous) 2016-04-24 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to admit that I've only seen a few gifs of the revival. I just remember seeing it in 2008 and thinking it was one of the most over-hyped musicals ever, so my reaction to the revival was less "oh, this is an interesting direction to go with the concept" and more "not this again." I'll give the Deaf West version a shot.

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2016-04-24 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

The revival is well worth looking into! Never been much of a Spring Awakening fan, but I ended up seeing the Deaf West production last fall, and it was incredible. One of the most moving things I've ever seen on stage. Not rushing out to see any other productions, but that one really made the show work for me.
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[personal profile] ketita 2016-04-24 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh, I saw a stage production of this and was so bugged by it. The sex scene in the middle was super rapey (I was unsurprised to discover that in the original book it actually was rape), and it was melodramatic, and then they ended with the dead kids fucking comforting the asshole MC. boo hoo, your life is so hard. You know whose life was hard? THE GIRL WHO DIED BECAUSE YOU GOT HER PREGNANT, ASSHAT.

Re: spoilers

(Anonymous) 2016-04-25 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
...I thought it WAS about sexual assault!
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Re: spoilers

[personal profile] ketita 2016-04-25 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
I don't even know, because at least in the production I saw, the sex scene had all this romantic music going on and like candles and shit. It was framed super romantically, and I just sat in the audience feeling like something was really wrong. Also later they have her coming back to comfort the asshat, so who even knows?
The entire play just seemed kind of tone-deaf to me.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-24 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't like it either mainly cause I hate Melchior. I also don't like about half the songs either, but the other half I really do like so its a struggle.

I love Moritz though. He is a good character.
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[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-04-24 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm really glad I'm not the only one who can't really get into it. It's interesting as a historic artifact but it's not really for me.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-24 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm mostly meh about it (and still peeved that it won the Tony over Grey Gardens). To me it just feels like one of those shows that is trying really hard to be shocking and cool by having songs called Bitch of Living and Totally Fucked.
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[personal profile] amanuensis1 2016-04-25 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like you have answered your own question: "It's got some great music, tho." Why wouldn't that be the main reason for people to love a musical?

(And, yes, I do think a lot of the music in this is just exquisite.)

(Anonymous) 2016-04-25 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
I was just coming here to say that.

OP here

(Anonymous) 2016-04-25 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I love most of the songs, but the story is crap. IDK, back in 2008 tons of people were like "OMGZ IT'S SO DEEP AND PROFOUND." Maybe that element of the fandom just soured me to the musical as a whole. It is not the most "artsy" or deepest musical I've seen by a long shot. At best it's a mediocre musical elevated by some great music.
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Re: OP here

[personal profile] amanuensis1 2016-04-26 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
I had seen bits and pieces here and there, and didn't really feel compelled to see it or listen to much of the music, but then I did go to see the Deaf West production as my first full experience of the musical and I was just blown away; it may have added a dimension and a pull that the original wouldn't have had for me otherwise, but I'll never know for sure. Anyway, sure, it's not necessarily that deep or profound a story, except for the "plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose" (damn, I hate forgetting how to type accent marks) element. I can see how a lot of misunderstood young people would choose it as their own personal bildungsroman and fall for it hard. (And how that could be really annoying to non-fans.)

(Anonymous) 2016-04-25 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
mamaaaa who bore meeee