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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-04-27 06:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #3402 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3402 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-04-27 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Interestingly, I've never gotten around to reading the books, but I actually got most of the things you're talking about from the movies. Maybe having the expectation of it being more spelled out made it seem lacking from the book-reader perspective?

(Anonymous) 2016-04-27 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel this way about a majority of the characters. The LOTR movies are pretty shallow actually. Obviously, there are time constraints that make it hard to go in depth but the choices they made for a lot of the characters felt hollow.

It makes me sad when people dismiss Eowyn's journey as warrior-to-cliched!healer, when she earned that happy ending. It wasn't cliched when Tolkien wrote it, and it wasn't too far off from the ending he gave Aragorn (or even Elrond). Being a healer is good in his writing, doesn't matter the gender. But, seeing the movie, I'm not surprised people can be dismissive like that. I don't think PJ understood any character with any depth, especially the women.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-27 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I was always slightly disappointed with her lack of badass in the movies. Whenever she was swordfighting, including when she sparred Aragorn, she had this weird, panicked expression and always looked like she had no idea what she was doing. She just seemed so awkward in battle, kind of wanted her to come across a little cooler than that?

And just wondering where you got that Thoeden leaving her in charge would've been unheard of? been a long time since I read the books.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-28 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
In one of the DVD extras (that I think was only available in the limited edition, 2-disc LOTR EEs and the EE blu-ray boxset), you got to see a lot of material of them shooting an unused scene of Eowyn fighting Uruk-Hai in the caves under Helm's Deep. The cut subplot that led up to that scene was pretty crappy but, damn, the fight scene looked so good and I'm still pissed they'd cut it.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-27 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair, it's been a while since I read the book, but I disagree with this interpretation and that the movies didn't do a good job of showing her complexity. You want it to be MORE about her feeling sad, at least partly because the guy she had a crush on didn't like her back? As I recall, and as the movie showed, it was far more about grief and years of crippling loneliness, isolation and fear, about wanting to be proactive and protect her people, about ultimately realizing that there were more ways to do that than the so-called glory of dying in battle and, bonus, that there were better, truer loves for her than the first reasonably attractive guy she met.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-28 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
This, so hardcore.

I love Eowyn as a character and I've probably read her plotlines probably 50,000 times at this point, but the movie did a pretty good job.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-28 02:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I legit thought the OP had missed a word because the book is pretty explicit that Eowyn was never actually in love with Aragorn, that Eowyn was focused on escaping her misery and her "cage" and the only way out she could see was Aragorn, so she loved him...

(Anonymous) 2016-04-28 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Her forehead is huge! Was that in the books too?

(Anonymous) 2016-04-28 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
A high forehead is not a bad thing - more room for brains! :)

(Anonymous) 2016-04-28 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
She really puls it off, though.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-28 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought they showed her feelings pretty well, the only complaint I had with her is she wasn't tough-looking enough. Miranda Otto is a good actress but she doesn't look tough at all.