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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-04-27 06:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #3402 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-04-27 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm kind of the same and kind of the opposite. I don't really care for the profiling, especially as a lot of the episodes (to me) are phoning that part of it in lately. But, I've really loved all the characters. Even the new ones they bring in (I liked Seaver too!). I think they do a very good job with the characters. They're one of the better shows with character continuity, and they're generally pretty respectful of the long-term characters. I feel rewarded for being a long time fan.

I don't think I'll ever stop watching. I still enjoy all these characters and want to see what they're up to.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-27 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been disillusioned ever since I saw compelling evidence that criminal psychological profiling isn't a real thing. Or rather, it's a real thing in the same way that palm reading and tarot cards are: people getting paid to work with certain cognitive biases and blind spots.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-27 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you have a link to any sources on that? I'm honestly interested in this because I used to be really into profiling, but I've started to question it a bit. It still seems like it has its uses, but less so than I used to think. So I'm curious about sources that are negative towards it.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-27 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
http://skepdic.com/profiling.html

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/11/12/dangerous-minds

One of the people reading this thread is upset about the idea that profiling isn't real. Female, mid-20s to early 30s, white or possibly Asian. Cat owner. She identifies strongly with the characters in fiction, has ever since she was little. So strongly, in fact, that my putting down their abilities feels, in one way or another, like a personal attack. She would describe herself as sexually atypical in some important way, which caused her a lot of stress and awkwardness when she was younger, particularly during adolescence. There was an animal in the house when she was a child, a pet with an unusual, unique name. And in front of her current residence you'll find a silver or gray car.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-27 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG THAT IS ME!!!!
(ok not really, but the bits that matched were amusing to me)

(Anonymous) 2016-04-27 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems like even the real profilers admit that it is good for only two things: narrowing down once they have actual suspects and interrogation of suspects (and actual criminals).

(Anonymous) 2016-04-27 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
The whole profiling thing really interests me too. There are some fascinating non fiction books written on the subject if you're curious, OP.

Sexual Homicide: Patterns and Motives- Paperback - the results of that longterm study the FBI did on serial killers

You should also look for the books by Robert Ressler and John Douglas, who were both founders of the real profiling team at the FBI.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-27 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I too have loved all the characters past and present :). I think the show's been really good at giving them all their own unique niche and place in the team, and I think they've also done well at finding people to join the show over the years who could create an excellent chemistry with the rest of the cast/characters.

The characters are what got me invested in this show and they're who keep me watching. I think it might be a little tougher and sadder for me if any more of the original team members ever leave, but at the very least, I'd check out the show to see what it'd be like without them around. I don't know if this show could be like a "Law and Order" sort where the cast rotates for so many years. I think there is a special chemistry between the core group who've been there from the start that would be hard to fully replace altogether...but who knows, it could be done.

As for the cases, I like them, too...but I'm not as interested in trying to solve the mystery with the team as other fans tend to be, or going through the specific process of profiling itself (interesting though that job is). The part of the cases that always interests me the most is more the aftermath of it all. I like it when the show touches on all the moral/ethical/societal questions that these cases bring up. The potential redemption or lack thereof of criminals, what makes someone a killer, why some people go bad while others in similar situations don't, whether the work these guys do glorifies the bad guys, how families rebuild, or don't, after a tragedy, etc. It's fascinating stuff to explore.

And I love seeing how the team deals with the weight of this job as well, with the impact it has on their families, the guilt they feel when a case doesn't work out, or when they get too personally attached or sympathetic to a victim or unsub, or the fine line between dedication to solving a case and being obsessed with it, and stuff like that. That's part of what keeps me so invested in these characters-we learn so much about them that way, and I like that.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-27 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
This is a show that, even if I'm involved in another fandom for a while, I'll keep coming back to. I love the characters, love that they have such strong interesting female leads. I particularly love that they can introduce a new character and I'll end up liking them as much as the others (I really didn't think that was possible after Prentiss left).
Admittedly, it went downhill a bit with Seaver and I missed a lot of those episodes. But now it's back and on form!

(Anonymous) 2016-04-28 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
As long as Hotch and JJ are there, I will be there. If either leaves (such as in season six - fuck you, CBS), I'm outta there.

Profiling is interesting.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-28 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Profiling reminds me of meteorology, in that a lot of predictions are based on past statistics. That's not a bad thing and can be very useful as part of an analysis, but it has it's limitations. If you don't have enough data or your assumptions are wrong, your predictions could be way off.

Re: Profiling is interesting.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-28 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
Well, that's where you get into the art not a science thing, and it's also where reasoning and logic become important.
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[personal profile] litalex 2016-04-28 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I really enjoy the show as well, no matter who comes and goes, because I love every new case, too.
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[personal profile] cloudtrader 2016-04-29 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
This is the only show that I really enjoyed for awhile and then caused me to have a bit of a breakdown and I never watched it again. I hadn't really understood the concept of "triggers" on a personal level before, but a certain episode of this show made me break out in tears and rather hysterically tell the people who I was watching it with that I couldn't take it anymore.

Occasionally, I'll wander past it while channel-flipping and pause for a second... I do really like the characters, but I just... can't watch it anymore.