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⌈ Secret Post #3408 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Politics thread

[(Anonymous)]

Huh. You know, that's a good question. I just assumed there was some good historical that no longer really applies, but nope. Apparently they were literally created so "party leaders" could keep their power when grubby little grassroots activists tried to take it.

Re: Politics thread

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I mean, in fairness, that probably looks much more like a problem that needs solving when you're looking at it in the direct aftermath of a famously bloody, divisive 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago, and a ridiculous electoral bloodbath in 1972.

Re: Politics thread

[(Anonymous)]

Or people could get over their goddamn sour grapes like grown-ass adults

Re: Politics thread

[(Anonymous)]

I think trying to avoid repetition of the 1968 convention is a little more than sour grapes.

And, I mean, in the systems' defense, you had very contentious primaries in 1976 and 1980, and both of them were run a hell of a lot better than 1968 or 1972, and not notably to the disadvantage of the non-establishment candidates - Carter won in 1976.

It's really not at all clear to me that the superdelegate system is some kind of plot.

Re: Politics thread

[(Anonymous)]

"A contentious primary" isn't a reason to ignore the majority of voters by letting select special people have votes that mean more. And people who say it is need to grow the fuck up and get over the fact they lost to someone the people liked more.

Re: Politics thread

[(Anonymous)]

Superdelegates have never been used - and I do not believe they will ever be used - to give the victory to one candidate when another has the majority of elected delegates. I wouldn't worry about it until it does happen - I strongly doubt it will this year.

Superdelegates make it easier to mediate when there are three or more candidates viable in a convention, none of whom have a majority of elected delegates. They make it less plausible for Stop X movements to pull off some shenanigans at a convention. They generally make it easier to have an orderly convention. Those are genuinely useful things to have.

Re: Politics thread

[(Anonymous)]

I wouldn't worry about it until it does happen

Always a wise action to take. o_O

Re: Politics thread

[(Anonymous)]

So, since in this case there are only two viable candidates on the Democratic side, are superdelegates gonna be useful this election?

Re: Politics thread

[(Anonymous)]

No, I don't think so.

Re: Politics thread

[(Anonymous)]

You're right. They're just going to be harmful. Because this massive lead Hillary has? She wouldn't have it if super delegates weren't in the picture. She'd still be leading, but not by a nearly insurmountable amount.

Re: Politics thread

[(Anonymous)]

So how are they harmful? Hillary is leading because she has the most elected delegates, and is demonstrably the choice of the majority of the Democratic Party. Superdelegates don't even enter into it.

Re: Politics thread

[(Anonymous)]

What part of " She'd still be leading, but not by a nearly insurmountable amount," don't you understand? There are still races to go, you know.

Re: Politics thread

[(Anonymous)]

And if Bernie wins the majority of elected delegates as a result of those races, I think he will get the nomination.

I don't think it's a likely event that he'll get those delegates. But let the evil be sufficient unto the day here, before we get worried about the superdelegates stealing an election from Bernie that he's currently losing.