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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-05-13 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #3418 ]


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Bitter vs. plain evil

(Anonymous) 2016-05-13 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Is it worse for someone to do something bad out of bitterness, or just because they're a sadistic asshole?

I see a lot of people insulting other people by calling them bitter or unhappy, and implying that that is the reason behind their actions. But personally, I would hate someone more if they did something bad just because they enjoy being a jerk or like to see people suffering.
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Re: Bitter vs. plain evil

[personal profile] nonnymouscawitz 2016-05-13 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
It is objectively worse to do something bad because you enjoy doing nasty things, but just because it's worse doesn't mean that complaints about people doing things out of bitterness aren't valid. Bitterness isn't an excuse.

Re: Bitter vs. plain evil

(Anonymous) 2016-05-13 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I know it's not an excuse. What I'm talking about, is people who use "you're bitter" as an insult, which gives me the impression that they think doing something out of bitterness is worse than doing it just for the hell of it.

Re: Bitter vs. plain evil

(Anonymous) 2016-05-13 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally, when it comes to internet threads, I find 'you're just bitter!' To be the greater offense over said (perceived) bitterness.

Re: Bitter vs. plain evil

(Anonymous) 2016-05-13 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's more that saying that is likely to get under someone's skin
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Re: Bitter vs. plain evil

[personal profile] nonnymouscawitz 2016-05-13 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't see how saying 'you're just bitter' implies that's worse than 'you're just a jerk.' It just implies that the person saying it thinks the other person is bitter. They're two different, unconnected insults/statements.

Re: Bitter vs. plain evil

(Anonymous) 2016-05-13 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Calling someone bitter is invalidating that they have a right to be bothered. "Your concerns aren't worthy, because you're just bitter." Calling someone a jerk is about the manner in which they say things. "You're a jerk for saying that."
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Re: Bitter vs. plain evil

[personal profile] nonnymouscawitz 2016-05-13 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
That still wouldn't imply that being bitter is worse, though.
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Re: Bitter vs. plain evil

[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-05-13 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
The other day in class my ninth graders got into it about it evil and crazy are the same thing. The consensus was largely "they're real close," but evil people know exactly how unforgivable what they're doing is, and don't care (or even enjoy it).

Re: Bitter vs. plain evil

(Anonymous) 2016-05-14 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I don't want you to take this the wrong way because I'm not trying to be mean but I hate everything about this comment
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Re: Bitter vs. plain evil

[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-05-14 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Elaborate? I'm not terrifically invested either way tbb

Re: Bitter vs. plain evil

(Anonymous) 2016-05-14 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
I think maybe I overreacted but I hate seeing the word "crazy" matched with "evil" or matched with evil acts because the common use of the term includes not only people who want to hurt people but people exactly like me
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Re: Bitter vs. plain evil

[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-05-14 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
My students were using "crazy" to indicate "unable to understand fully the consequences or reality of one's actions," I think. They're 14.

Re: Bitter vs. plain evil

(Anonymous) 2016-05-13 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I call people bitter bc I'm optimistic and hope they get better by seeing the error of their ways
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Re: Bitter vs. plain evil

[personal profile] crossy_woad 2016-05-14 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, I'm bitter about some things? Isn't everyone? I try real hard not to let it motivate me to be mean. I think it does make sense that it's mostly used to ignore someone's concerns. "Ah you do'nt like this team? You're just bitter yours didn't win!" It's often the truth, when used that way, and I guess people find it offensive because no one wants to be motivated by that.

Re: Bitter vs. plain evil

(Anonymous) 2016-05-14 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure if it matters if the results are the same.
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Re: Bitter vs. plain evil

[personal profile] lb_lee 2016-05-14 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I've been equally shittily treated by both kinds of people, and it really didn't make much difference to me. Whether they're hurting me just for lulz or hurting me out of some twisted sense of victimization, I'm still getting hurt.

In some ways, I actually find straight-up sadism easier to deal with. Less guilt there, you know?

Re: Bitter vs. plain evil

(Anonymous) 2016-05-14 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
When people say someone's 'bitter', they're not saying that they're worse than someone who is evil. They are commenting on motivation, and the insult is that the allegedly 'bitter' person is acting out because they feel inadequate or resentful (rather than their actions being a justified response).

Example:
Person 1: That was a bad thing to do.
Person 2: No it wasn't, you just want to get back at me because you're bitter about [insert reason].
(The irony of course being that usually Person 2 is the one who is bitter about Person 1 calling them out in these kinds of scenarios.)