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⌈ Secret Post #3418 ⌋

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This scenario seems fairly common:

A/B are a hugely popular pairing that the majority of the fandom seems to love and wants to become canon and sometimes even the actors seem to ship it. Either they never get together at all, or if they do, they break up, and then...

A will get together with C, who's B's rival and/or everyone (other characters, and the majority of the fans) seems to hate, and they're endgame.

Of course the writers can do whatever they want but sometimes it seems like they do stuff to intentionally piss the fans off. I don't get it.

What % of viewership do you think is part of the fandom, in most cases

Can you give me some examples?

Not sure it'll help any since I don't think it's a very popular show in this comm, but Burgess/Ruzek/Roman on Chicago PD is probably the most recent I can think of.

Most likely? A/B is either same sex, interracial or contains one person (most likely a woman) who isn't young/skinny/conventionally attractive enough. A/C does not have any of those issues.

If they're both het pairings consisting of traditionally "hot" white people? Hell if I know.

I'm... honestly not sure I've seen this, except with the HP ship wars of old? I mean, sure, I wanted poly ship in Leverage, but I know that's never going to happen, so you know.

I don't know. Personally, what I see happening a lot is: For the first while in a series' run, A/B have this really great dynamic and a fandom gathers around them and ships them like burning. But A and B happen to both be male. The writers (usually middle-age and usually male) get all weird / uncomfortable / annoyed about people interpreting their story ~wrong~, and slowly they begin to change the way they write character A and B's dynamic. Suddenly A and B seem to care less about each other than they did before, the canonical (het) love interests of one or both characters become more prominent, and there may or may not be several "no homo" moments whenever it is absolutely necessary for A and B to have some kind of emotionally intimate moment with each other.

Yes! I feel like this happens allllll the time. I'm waiting for the day that a ship like this actually becomes canon but I feel like we're a loooong way off, if it ever happens at all.

If A and B are Steve and Bucky from the MCU then they are never getting together because the Chinese state censor is 100% Ho Homo and Disney needs all that sweet Chinese Yen. Live with it.

Writers can still write whatever the hell they want, no matter how much or how little they understand the story or respect the characters (in the fans' eyes). Sure, it would be nice to take the fans into account when it comes to the direction of the story, but they don't absolutely have to.

IMO any writers who intentionally do things to piss off a loyal fanbase deserve the criticism towards their writing, but then, how does one tell if writers are intentionally pissing off a fanbase vs. the fans perceiving the writing as "intentionally pissing off a fanbase"? How do you know A/C wasn't endgame from the very beginning, and not because a writer wanted to be a jerk mid-story? What if A/B was received well on accident because *gasp* the writers thought there should be some actual character development and plot?

If you're dissatisfied with the end game, then fanfic and AU and "this is the ending they actually deserve you terrible hacks" the fuck out of it. Hell, if you're REALLY dissatisfied, become professional and jump on a team in a reboot. If the original writers have a problem with it, then fuck them, maybe they should have done a better job.

In addition to what was said re: if A and B are the same gender, I also expect sometimes writers are put in a position of having to do things because some exec wanted it or an actor said "give my character more to do or I quit" or something. Or maybe they had to start throwing whatever they could at the wall to see what woud stick. Just like they might not have predicted how well the chemistry between A and B would work out, they may not be able to predict how poorly A and C will turn out until they've tried it. Finally, they're only human and will have their own favorite characters and shipping preferences and biases and personal reasons for doing things. Maybe a writer likes A and identifies with C and puts them together for wish fulfillment. It's not like fans don't do the same thing.

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