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[ SECRET POST #3425 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3425 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Final Fantasy VII/Super Smash Bros]

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[The Girls Next Door, Bridget Marquardt, Holly Madison, Kendra Wilkinson]

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[Pokémon Sun and Moon]

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[Love and Lies]

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[Aoishiro]

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[The Hunger Games]

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09. [SPOILERS for Houdini and Doyle]

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10. [SPOILERS for Pokemon SM]

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11. [SPOILERS for The Witcher/Dragon Age]

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12. [SPOILERS for Cupid]
[WARNING for rape, incest]

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13. [WARNING for discussion of rape]

["Blurred Lines", Robin Thicke]

Notes:

Really early because I've got stuff to do, sorry about that.

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[Love and Lies]

Because the declining birthrate is topical.

Because highschool romances are vastly more popular in manga than the adult variety.

Because innocent first loves are more compelling to a certain audience, and more people experience those at 16 than at 25.

Because if it dealt with what the government would actually have to do to increase the birthrate - ban all forms of birth control, including abortion, and heavily subsidize young families - it would be a political manga rather than a romantic one.

You're right... I know I need to stop thinking about these things so hard... The inconsistencies are just so ragingly blatant. It's an interesting idea, but so very not fleshed out. I wish they'd at least handwaved it and come up with a reason for why it had to be sixteen, even a paper-thin one, but they didn't even try to justify it.

Do most people experience first love in high school? My circle of friends certainly wasn't dating in high school, but I have no idea what the normal experience is... I always thought most high school romances were a fantasy, since most people don't date in high school (and to my knowledge, there is even less dating going on in Japanese high schools). I remember when I was in tenth grade, there was like one "class couple" and nobody else was dating, or if they were, it was fairly under wraps. It was really all talk and no action most of the time.

I may be totally disconnected from reality there, though...

Er, most people were dating in my school, and I went to a private, Catholic-run (nuns and everything) all-girls high school. It was even worse in the public schools. Public schools, if you aren't dating, there's something wrong with you.

My first love was my high school sweetheart, and it's relatively common in my neck of the woods (Great Lakes region of the U.S.).

Besides, something like this is focused on those who fantasize about things like soulmates and finding that one perfect person for the rest of your life. Sixteen-year-olds, on the whole, are a lot less cynical and inclined to believe such is possible. They haven't been in the adult world yet, so they aren't playing the game for the potentially horrifying realities. They're in it for non-offensive fluff.

At least, that's my take on it, as someone who enjoys the "arranged marriage" trope.

"Public schools, if you aren't dating, there's something wrong with you."

Depends on what country you're from or whether or not people care, anon.

Also, your statement on 16 year olds is bs. "Less cynical?" You've never spoken to a white male, have you? Hell, teenagers are some of the most cynical people out there, even if they're naive in life. Just go look at Reddit or Tumblr and then you'll see.

In my high school, it seemed to be about 50/50 between people who were dating or had dated and those who hadn't. Also, not everyone dated someone from the same school or talked about it much, so there were people who were dating but it wasn't obvious to people unless they said something. Some of my friends dated and some didn't. No one thought I was weird for not having a boyfriend, although considering how bad my skin was, I don't think anyone was surprised.

Your experience isn't typical. I don't know about Japan, but most people in America have dated in high school.

Most people is a blanket statement. Not everyone is. Better to say it was common. Also, teenagers are never really dating. It's just a mild attraction and then a relationship for the sake of one or because of naivety, lol. It's like when two benefriends call each other "boyfriend/girlfriend" even though everyone knows what's up, or when a little kid thinks a grown ass women is his just because she kissed him on the cheek.

Oh, but you know what is common in American highschools? Violence and racism. And if you say that's not common, you're an idiot.

Experiencing first love in high school is definitely a thing. Think of those "high school sweetheart" stories that occasionally float around. I know couples who recently married and have been dating since ninth grade (which was the first year of high school where I lived). I didn't date much then, but my best friend did and so did several of my classmates.

'In love' enough to start dating usually starts before High School, IME. (I was out of college before I started dating, but I was unusual. Grade 7 and 8 were way more common.)

No, 99.99% of the time, those relationships won't last, but they were happening, and that's not much more of a failure rate than ones that start in adulthood.

Got proof for that last statement or you just talking out your butt here? The young love is more intelligent then old love bullshit needs to die.

That is literally the opposite of what I wrote, so you might want to dial back the indignation.

I am not American, but from somewhere in Asia.
It's not unusual really to have your first love experience in high school.

It didn't happen to me, but I have have friends who were a couple back in school, still kept on dating long distance while going to universities abroad (she went to New Zealand, he went to London), and ended up getting married after they graduated.

Sure, not that many people dated in high school. But we sure had fun gossiping about who does, and who has a crush on who, etc.

As long as school kids are not dating for the sole purpose of getting fucked, or because they want to fuck that person, I'm cool with it. Relationship first, then comes the other stuff.

The pill is still very hard to get in Japan (though condoms and abortion are available) and families are heavily subsidised. Mysteriously, though, few people want to get married and live out the incredibly strict gender roles of their parents, and put their kids through the same education system that they went through. Plus housing is hard to get in the cities where the jobs are and you're expected to look after your elderly parents (or parents in law if you're a woman, but if you're an only child or your brother doesn't marry, you have to look after BOTH sets of parents). The situation is similar in Italy which also has a very low birthrate.

Your criticisms are valid. Just like OP's. But it wouldn't be political unless it was advocating that happening. That's like saying a show is pro-drugs if it has a drug dealer as a main character. It'd just be a rehashing of Romania's history into Japanese modern society.

I don't know what this is, but I'm guessing it's aimed at pre-teens who would rather read about teenagers than adults, don't want to hear about how they're going to change as they get older, and who aren't going to think to deeply into the mechanics of the whole thing, anyway.

Wow, a lot of game secrets tonight. That's cool.

Because it's aimed at 16 yo? I dunno, I never heard of this but I remember a manga with a premise like this one, where they get paired right off the bat for procreation. Unless this is that manga, but the one I'm talking about had a blonde girl.

In Japan, if you're not married by 25, you're a "Christmas Cake" (a sugary, creamy confection that goes off immediately after the 25th). Most people in Japan don't get married by 25 and of course many never marry at all, but this stereotype is still around! So people getting forcibly married at 25 wouldn't have the shock value.

A newer version is "New Year's Cake", i.e. be married by 31, but the out-of-reach ideal is still younger.

I think there is more pressure for women to get married in China.

If you aren't married over a certain age, you'd end up being labeled a 'leftover woman'.

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