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⌈ Secret Post #3426 ⌋

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Comments

Morality Question

[(Anonymous)]

If you saw someone doing something shitty to another person that said person did nothing to deserve, would you be more affected by:

a) how sympathetic the victim is on the scale of "innocent sweetheart" to "complete trash"

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b) how repugnant an action the shitty thing is regardless of who the victim is


?

(Remember I said "more affected by" not "only affected by." I assume both factors would have some effect on how you would react.)

Re: Morality Question

[(Anonymous)]

B) The repugnant action.

If the victim then takes a repugnant action back*, they're on the repugnant action side in a fresh scenario.

*Unnecessary repugnant actions, not self defense. Killing someone who is trying to kill you could be called necessary, murdering somemeone because they stole your cookie is obviously not the same thing

Re: Morality Question

[(Anonymous)]

Probably would depend on whether the victim did anything shitty to me personally.

Re: Morality Question

[nonnymouscawitz]

Always B for me. Shitty people suck and deserve to be punished for their shittiness, but that doesn't mean we should heap on extra punishment when they're minding their own business.

Re: Morality Question

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with this.

Someone might morally deserve being punched in the face, but it doesn't make it right for me to declare myself judge and jury and go punch them. Or for any other random individual to do so

Re: Morality Question

[nonnymouscawitz]

Exactly. Like, I'm not stupid, I know I'm only human and left alone with some monster of a person, I don't know how calm I'd be. But that wouldn't make anything I did the correct thing to do.

Re: Morality Question

[(Anonymous)]

Probably b), but it would depend on whether the shitty thing felt like symbolic retribution for the victim if the victim was complete trash.

Like, if the shitty thing was a rape and the victim was complete trash because s/he was a rapist, I would be less affected than if the shitty thing was rape and the victim was complete trash because s/he was a Bernie Madoff-esque swindler who ruined a load of people's lives but had never raped anyone.

Re: Morality Question

[(Anonymous)]

B. Repugnant action.

Re: Morality Question

[(Anonymous)]

I'd say b)
I avoid putting people on that particular scale you used.

Re: Morality Question

[lb_lee]

B. Because a fair amount of the worst things I've had done to me, were done to me by people who'd gone through the exact same thing and were repeating. I never want to be like that.

Re: Morality Question

[dethtoll]

B.

Re: Morality Question

[herpymcderp]

This question doesn't make sense. Scenario A assumes I know the character of the victim in question, which means I'm probably already more sympathetic on average than if it were a stranger.

Scenario B assumes I don't know the victim, so the quality of the wrongdoing is the only thing I have to go on.

This is set up in such a way that it seems like the two criteria don't really overlap.

Re: Morality Question

[(Anonymous)]

OP

Huh? Scenario B assumes you do know the victim!

Re: Morality Question

[herpymcderp]

But... If it's either A or B then just B alone necessitates you don't know anything about the victim.

Needs moar sliding scale.

Re: Morality Question

[(Anonymous)]

A

if someone was pulling Trump's fingernails out from his tiny hands in front of me I could happily go about my day

Re: Morality Question

[(Anonymous)]

Definitely B.

A lot of the people I work with and interact with regularly are ex-cons, addicts, etc. and I know many of them have done pretty awful things in the past. I'm sure some of them continue to do awful things. But, that doesn't mean they deserve to have other people be cruel to them. Even bad people can be victims, and even bad people deserve compassion.

Re: Morality Question

[(Anonymous)]

B overall, because some things are not okay regardless of the victim, but below a certain threshold of repugnancy of action, I'm more likely to be concerned with how sympathetic the victim is.

Re: Morality Question

[feotakahari]

B. I've never subscribed to a "pay evil unto evil" mindset.

Re: Morality Question

[(Anonymous)]

lotta goody two shoes in this comm

Re: Morality Question

[(Anonymous)]

You mean lots of rational and mature people with empathy and compassion?

Re: Morality Question

[caerbannog]

Mostly b) with a bit of a) children, animals,

Re: Morality Question

[(Anonymous)]

B.

Objectivity is important.

There is shit I would not wish upon the scum of the earth.