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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-05-21 03:23 pm

[ SECRET POST #3426 ]


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[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-05-21 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
When we stop demonizing poor people for being poor and writing laws that only serve to punish them, maybe I'll start caring about how rich people are portrayed.

[personal profile] lady_dragoon 2016-05-21 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I admit, I only care in the interests of decent writing. Stereotypes get boring and stale fast.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-05-21 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
And poor people are constantly stereotyped as lazy welfare-sucking parasites. For this reason I can't really care about how the rich are stereotyped, in writing or in reality.

[personal profile] lady_dragoon 2016-05-22 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
In reality, yes. I haven't seen this stereotype all that much in fiction unless it was written by a libertarian nutjob.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-21 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Except how much of that is furthering the Bootstraps myth? Demonize the idea of rising above the middle class and you can only appreciate the money you worked hard for. Make the 1% into cartoonish villains and reassure people that they have it the best working two jobs and never seeing their kids and one medical problem away from bankruptcy.

You make Rich People relatable instead of another species entirely and the masses might start wondering why they don't deserve financial security too.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-05-21 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
That's quite a leap of logic you've made there. I don't agree with your assessment at all.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-21 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Mainly I'm tying it in with the also super-common plotline that Character gets money, Character turns into a GIANT JERK, alienates all their friends, gets themselves in a huge amount of trouble. And then by the end of the episode Character has lost all the money and realizes the only way to truly be happy is to be poor and have friends.

Fry in Futurama, the Simpsons multiple times, Ah Real Monsters... I can think of a ton of examples that are basically "If you become rich, you'll become evil. Money is power, power corrupts, stay poor if you want to stay a good person."
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2016-05-22 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Lol, Kill la Kill that exact thing with Mako and her family.
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[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2016-05-22 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Danny Phantom did this in Livin' Large. A lot of the fanbase likes to pretend that episode never happened. It was terrible, OOC, and just a mess.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-22 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
...Most lottery winners end up like this. Money goes to people's heads. They do go off the rails. People who grew up wealthy tend to be borderline sociopaths at worst, inconsiderate assholes at best. The people who aren't like this are a rare exception.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-22 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair, that whole concept started with the whole "all you need is love" ideology, which also goes back further than The Beatles. Not always a wrong plotline, but still overused in poor fashion.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-22 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Two incredibly different issues. We can look at how the poor are discriminated against and ALSO look at how people pretend that the rich can't possibly have any problems as though money is the only thing in their lives.