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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-05-21 03:23 pm

[ SECRET POST #3426 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3426 ⌋

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crossy_woad: chicken (Default)

Re: Interesting secret thread

[personal profile] crossy_woad 2016-05-22 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Can we just agree that most of the time nobody gets great things out of a war except maybe big corporations??

For women, even when they're "protected" they still have the fallout to deal with. (I.e. protected as being not in a war zone, a civilian casualty, or raped, etc.). That can be anything from starving to death, losing loved ones, to having the good outcome of a returned family member or loved one who's dealing with disability, PTSD, etc.

It's not easy for men, clearly, but I can never understand the desire of people to minimize the fact that war affects everyone...
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Re: Interesting secret thread

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-05-22 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
To be honest, I pretty much agree with this. I hate both the argument that "men are the REAL and ONLY victims of war and therefore men are actually victimized in society because clearly that means misogyny doesn't exist", and the argument that "men being killed and forced to fight against their will in war means NOTHING and is obviously NOT a men's issue because women suffer so much more and therefore men's suffering is meaningless". They're both really stupid, and you make an excellent point: in war, nobody wins except the corporations who benefit from the financial costs, and in some situations the government and wealthier/more privileged citizens of the victorious nation. It pretty much sucks for everyone else. Even those who are not anywhere near the actual fighting and who don't have loved ones in the fight can be impacted economically and psychologically.