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fandomsecrets2008-03-22 06:02 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2008-03-22 06:02 pm
[ SECRET POST #442 ]
⌈ Secret Post #442 ⌋
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(Anonymous) 2008-03-22 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)i guess it's just going to be an agree to disagree thing.
also, you complaining about the amount of torchwood secrets isn't going to change anything. it's a popular series.
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Are there really people who love tired storylines, woolly plots, hammy acting, weak characters and embarrassing dialogue though? Because those are my criticisms of Torchwood. I'm not talking about the specific storylines or the characters, I'm talking about the quality of the whole thing, which is pretty low in my opinion.
also, since when do people only have to watch quality broadcasting? sometimes people just want to relax, watch something that they don't have to think about.
You're right, but my point was that a lot of these secrets (and a lot of what I've read in my friends' journals) seems to suggest that they do actually consider Torchwood good telly, as opposed to them watching it for camp value, or for the slash, or just to laugh at it. And frankly, when I want to kick back and relax, the last thing I want to do is subject myself to bad TV, the kind that will just make me angry that so little thought went into it, and insults my intelligence.
also, you complaining about the amount of torchwood secrets isn't going to change anything. it's a popular series.
I wasn't under the illusion that I was going to change anything, I just wanted to express my opinion on the subject, and maybe get the opinion of some Torchwood fans. I haven't heard anything yet to pursuade me that my judgment is wrong or undeserved.
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Yes, if anything, because they're either masochists or people that enjoy laughing at those. Just look at all the secrets saying that reading badfic is their dirty pleasure.
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I can agree with the first out of that list, but not the rest. My critical functions watching the show are somewhat tempered by the knowledge that this is Who-verse and Doctor Who and associates, to me, has always had an element of hammy cheesy pantomime to it, so I don't necessarily see those things you mention as particularly bad/off-putting. It's endearing, and easily consumable rather than ridiculously self-important, so I think people give it a pass on its weaker structural elements due to the sheer momentum of its charm. Plus, most of the secrets I've seen are directed specifically toward the characters (whether it be squee-related, identification or puzzlement/ambivalence/hate over their popularity) and I'd say that for all the crazy hijinks those characters are put through, the actors do a good job giving into the campiness of the plot while making them really relatable and sympathetic. People can excuse lots for a character they truly feel something for and more often than not, that kind of reaction will overpower analysis of a more cerebral kind.
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I watch Torchwood and Smallville every week. While I can't speak for every fan of these shows, I'm completely aware of how godawful they are, but it's such (unintentionally) hilarious, cracky fun.
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