[ SECRET POST #3429 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3429 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Good acting? I love Domhnall Gleeson and I think he's great in a lot of his other films, but he was awful in TFA. The speech scene alone was terribly cringey. Granted, he didn't have much to work with as Hux seems to be written as more of a cartoonish Nazi caricature rather than an actual character, but still.

[fishnchips]

The speech scene was incredibly cringey and I absolutely hate it.

But considering that the character, as well as the whole scene, was written as the most ridiculously OTT Nazi rally parallel and the people working on the movie kept going out of their way to say so, I'm actually pretty certain that Gleeson was acting according to very specific directions there. Not even the greatest actor can save a scene if the writing is weird and the director has a certain vision (just look at a lot of the dialogue in the prequel trilogy - Natalie Portman and Ewan McGregor are great actors, but there is only so much you can do with a shit script).

Domhnall Gleeson had a certain role to play and imo, he did what he was supposed to do very well.

I feel very reminded of all the times people kept complaining about actors playing the same roles over and over again and therefore being bad actors without understanding that typecasting is a thing and there's only so many ways you can play the same type of role.

[arcadiaego]

I thought the speech was appalling the first time I watched the film but the second time I actually felt it make sense. Plus it's hard to act brilliantly while yelling.

[fishnchips]

It definitely felt like he watched some Hitler speeches for practise.
(I'm German so this very, very obvious and heavy handed spaze nazi business is extra cringey.)
Like, yes, I agree that it makes sense in the context of the movie and the speech itself isn't even the worst part - the worst part was the not-even-slightly-disguised-Nazi-rally scene setting. I still think it was painfully and mindnumbingly lazy.

[(Anonymous)]

I know Lucas used stuff from Triumph of the Will for the first trilogy but it's always confused me because other than "we're going to rule everything", the Empire never had any sort of Nazi-ish goals.

[fishnchips]

The thing about this: we don't even really know what the First Order wants, so ideologically, calling them "literal space nazis" isn't exactly accurate. The very obvious styling is another thing, obviously.

[(Anonymous)]

It sort of reminds me of ACROSS from Excel Saga. They use a lot of Nazi imagery but their leader HATES Nazis and everything they stand for. He uses the symbolism because it's been proven effective.

[fishnchips]

I mean, I know the people who designed things for the First Order said they took their inspiration directly from the Nazis, and I'm not saying they didn't, but the "huge and imposing architecture" and the red white and black colour scheme was massively popular in other dictatorships as well for a reason (and the Nazis had prominent designers like Hugo Boss design them sleek uniforms on purpose, because they knew it was effective).