[ SECRET POST #3430 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3430 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[A Game of Thrones, Brienne of Tarth/Tormund Giantsbane]


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02.
[Lupita Nyong'o]


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03.
[Tolkien/Lord of the Rings]


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04.
[Doctor Thorne miniseries, based on the book by Anthony Trollope]


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05.
[Top Row (L-R): Orihara Izaya (Durarara!!), Akashi Seijuurou (Kuroko no Basuke), Levi (Shingeki no Kyojin), Free Cell (Phi Brain), Choromatsu (Osomatsu-san)
Bottom Row (L-R): Satomi Riou (Hakkenden), Kusatsu Kinshirou (Boueibu), Souma Hiroomi (Working!!), Takeda Ittetsu (Haikyuu!!), Natsume Takashi (Natsume Yuujinchou)]


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06.
[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]


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07.
[The Night Manager]


















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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - posted twice ].
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Comments

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04. http://i.imgur.com/l3tYJno.jpg
[Doctor Thorne miniseries, based on the book by Anthony Trollope]

[(Anonymous)]

I have no idea what this is, but isn't that attitude pretty par for the course for the time period of orphan vs heiress?

[(Anonymous)]

Arguably yes. But the circumstances here is that the orphan in question was practically raised alongside the children from the rich family. They're closer to sisters than friends, which is what stings when Mary is effectively banned from the house and the family is discouraged from seeibg her.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know; it still seems likely. Look at how Fanny Price in Mansfield Park was treated raised alongside next to her cousins just because her family wasn't on the same socio-economical level.

[(Anonymous)]

The difference is that in Mansfield Park, Fanny is never anything but a burden to Aunt Norris and is made to feel it. In Doctor Thorne, Mary is treated as a part of the family, not as a charity project. It makes her eventual ejection from the family and house (one that is quite obvious and public because it's a small village) even more of a humiliation.

[(Anonymous)]

It sounds like OP thinks the characters' attitudes in the book were different from their attitudes in the movie, and their opinion of the characters in the movie is influenced by the characters in the book.

I'm not sure your comment has much to do with what the OP is talking about.

[(Anonymous)]

It does in that if that's the attitude of the day, then why is the OP holding that against the characters of the book and therefore influencing the look of the characters in the movie.

I'm not really sure why you had to comment on whether or not my comment had any validation instead of leaving that up to the OP.

OP again

[(Anonymous)]

Racial segregation was the attitude of the day back in the 1950s, it doesn't mean I have to have a good opinion of characters who staunchly believed that black people shouldn't sit at the same lunch counter with white people. Even when such racist policies were far more common, there were still people who thought more progressively and fought for equal rights and an end to segregation.

Likewise, even though it would've been a common attitude for a rich family to shun a woman just because she's an orphan who doesn't come from wealth or an old bloodline, it doesn't mean I can't dislike them for their opinions. And just as there were civil rights activists in the 50s ontward, there were people in Doctor Thorne who didn't have such backward attitudes, such as Miss Dunstable. Having an enlightened (and non douchey) opinion isn't impossible, even in "the olden days".

OP here

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, that's what I meant, sorry if it wasn't clear. In the book, the Greshams weren't quite as sympathetic as they were in the miniseries, which is probably a wise choice on the director's part. Book!Beatrice was, on the surface, sorry that her friend Mary has been banished from Greshamsbury Park, a place Mary practically grew up in. But Beatrice thinks it's the right thing to do, because after all Mary's status as an orphan means she isn't a proper match for Frank Greshamsbury, the heir. Keep in mind that Frank's the one who's pursuing Mary, not the other way around. Mary's being treated like a gold digger by the people who've known her since she was a little girl!