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I live in California, where the ground is dry and the and the sun is scorching. Trump has a simple solution to our water woes: just reroute all the water we're using to maintain our rivers and wetlands! Forget about environmental conservation and preventing species from going extinct; that's just not as important as producing more crops!

There are a lot of laws he would have to gut in order to fully accomplish this, and I don't think Congress will support him enough for him to finish the job. But he could potentially do a lot of damage, and he could quickly undo a lot of the time and effort we've put in to save the wetlands.

(I remember seven years ago, when Republicans derided all the effort to save the salt marsh harvest mouse as "useless protections for rats and weeds." Not every creature needs to have a "use" to be worth saving, even if that prevents you from exploiting the land for every last scrap of weeds.)

Edited 2016-05-28 21:08 (UTC)

I remember seven years ago, when Republicans derided all the effort to save the salt marsh harvest mouse as "useless protections for rats and weeds."

You can't expect them to understand biodiversity and the food chain when half of them think dinosaur bones are fakes and the Earth was created 4,000 years ago.

I saw. He's literally claiming that there is no drought -- and the worst part is he's just repeating a conspiracy theory by CA farmers.

I can't wait for this election to be over.

Also I'm reminded of a story a friend of mine told me she was speaking to I think it might have been a park or museum attendant or something (not a zookeeper, I don't think) and asked them what the weirdest question they ever got. The attendant thought for a bit and said they got a lot of questions about what the animals were "for." Like people thought that animals were put on this earth to serve us. It bothers me that people think this way; it also jibes really well with other thought patterns I see from the right-wing, because that line of thinking is often applied to people as well.

I have never thought of it that way but I think you're right. When people talk about each organism having a purpose, they usually mean a purpose in regards to humans, don't they?

I think a lot of humans don't even have a purpose.

that is a complete non-sequitur

Wow, that's some seriously old time Biblical thinking right there. But I'm not surprised... our science education is so poor, most people can't grasp the concept of why biodiversity benefits them if it doesn't benefit them directly in super obvious ways, i.e. you can eat this animal and it's delicious.

IIRC, as early as the 4th century, in City of God, Saint Augustine was arguing that just because we don't see an obvious benefit to something doesn't mean that it's without value; instead we should assume that everything that is part of the created world has value, even if we can't comprehend it:

"They do not consider how admirable these things are in their own places, how excellent in their own natures, how beautifully adjusted to the rest of creation, and how much grace they contribute to the universe by their own contributions as to a commonwealth....And thus divine providence admonishes us not foolishly to vituperate things, but to investigate their utility with care; and, where our mental capacity or infirmity is at fault, to believe that there is a utility, though hidden...."

yeah, that's some serious entitlement right there. one time a guy earnestly asked me what ticks are good for.

I can answer that one!

Argh. I saw that--one of my coworkers (one of 3 so far who I know is voting for Trump, headdesk) had the article pulled up on a front desk computer alongside something about "the Clinton emails" (double headdesk). I don't even like Clinton but at least she's not encouraging science-denying ignoramuses.. I'd love it if Trump were right about the drought. It would mean the ground would fucking stop subsiding as the aquifers under our state empty out.

I really hate the idea of having to vote for Hillary Clinton to stop this ignoramus.

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