[ SECRET POST #3434 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3434 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

While I agree the movies themselves were irredeemably awful and painful to watch, I actually liked a lot about the movie versions of the characters (read: the dwarves other than Thorin actually had personalities and a vastly more sympathetic and intimately portrayed backstory).

So while I cannot see myself ever subjecting myself to watching those putrid movies again, I very much appreciate what the movies have done for the fandom. And, for that matter, for the dwarf-related parts of the Tolkien bookverse fandom. There is MUCH more fandom respect and interest and empathy and worldbuilding for the canon dwarf culture and history etc since the movies came out, and much less self-hating "ooooch I am nothing but a mere lowly dwarf and also I am, like, so ugly" fandom characterizations.

[(Anonymous)]

It's also kind of important because Tolkien himself considered the Dwarves a Jewish allegory. In the films, Jackson chose the "lost their homeland" angle of this rather than the "lol, the treasure is ours and we're not sharing" one from the books. Which...yeah, huge improvement for obvious reasons.

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ayrt

Yeh, true. And speaking of which, Jackson's portrayal of the themes regarding the dwarves' overall story is actually much closer to Tolkien's later and more sympathetic (and post-WWII) revised portrayal of dwarves in LoTR than Tolkien's own earlier portrayal of dwarves in the Hobbit book was (e.g.: the whole tragedy of Moria, and Gimli's view of Aglarond, both of which illustrate WHY dwarves are so obsessed with beautiful things and old treasures, and it has nothing to do with material greed). You could kind of say that several dwarf-related bits in LoTR are kind of fixits for iffy things from the Hobbit, so Jackson was really continuing on Tolkien's change in attitude over time in that regard.

Which is not to say the movies didn't fuck up way more than they did right, but they definitely did do SOME things right.